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2009/06/16 11:20:21
liv4ree
jamjar, I believe this is normal, once you save the template, this won't be displayed again.
2009/06/16 11:38:51
sping
In 8.3 you can select if you want silent bus warning with the WarnSilentBuses switch, in cakewalk.ini add:

[WinCake]
WarnSilentBuses=0

See this thread:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1648597

[Edit: The reason for the warning is the Left/Right split using 2 sends and no regular output.]
2009/06/16 19:14:50
jamjar
Brilliant, thanks both of you!

Does anyone know if there is a description and/or diagram anywhere that describes the signal flows in this template (ie which buss goes where?).

You can tell I'm new to these processes - I've been using Sonar for years without busses so this has opened up a whole new area for me and I want to fully understand it.

OH, and I've left the most important thing until last - well done and many thanks Jonas, without your contributions I'd still be living in the non-buss dark ages!

2009/06/16 19:54:30
jsaras
I'm very glad that so many have gotten some value from this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time for tech support! That said, one would probably learn more by poking around on their own and doing some 'reverse-engineering'.
2009/06/16 20:41:46
Dave King
one would probably learn more by poking around on their own and doing some 'reverse-engineering'.


Agreed. Truly an educational experience.
2009/06/17 00:34:52
jamjar

ORIGINAL: jsaras

I'm very glad that so many have gotten some value from this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time for tech support! That said, one would probably learn more by poking around on their own and doing some 'reverse-engineering'.


Fair call, I guess I'm just being lazy! I will see if I can work it out for myself.

Thanks.
2009/06/17 00:44:09
Art1820m
Thanks Jonas, very thoughtful
2009/06/18 18:51:31
fitzj
Video on Monster Island
1. Buss the drums to a stereo compressor

2. Buss the drums again, to another stereo compressor and buss the returns of this 1st compressor to the second one as well

3. Use the returns of the compressor as the final drum sound

jsaras setup
Drum bus split (do not touch) sending to drum bus comp-stage 1 soft and drum bus comp-stage 2 load.
Drum bus comp-stage 1 (Soft) is routed to drum bus comp-stage 2 loud.
Drum bus comp-stage 2 (Loud) to the sub master buss.
Both the compressors are set at default and the sound is just passing through them is it meant to have some presets. Is this correct?



2009/06/18 20:16:55
jsaras
That sounds correct to me. You should always tweak compressor settings...blah, blah....but you could probably get away with just adjusting the thresholds of each compressor. In other words, I did adjust the attack and release settings on the compressors for the demo song.
2009/06/19 06:40:54
Jonbouy
ORIGINAL: jsaras

I'm very glad that so many have gotten some value from this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time for tech support! That said, one would probably learn more by poking around on their own and doing some 'reverse-engineering'.


Exactly, it's a great resource packed full of useful every day presets and some insights into bus and send routings...blah, blah, blah.

Studio Editon owners that don't have the Vintage Channel can look up 2 stage compression and use alternative compressors (I really love the $49 Stillwell Rocket for this kinda thing) and why not try adding your own parallel drum bus compression set-up which is fed by a send from a track (room mics would be a good candidate here) to a bus with some really heavy compression (the Sonitus Drum Destroyer preset is a good start point here) and perhaps some monster reverb too and feed it back into a main drum bus as an alternative or as well as going through the two stage process? Your scope is unlimited this is a great guide to set you on your own path.

This is a cool gift from Jonas and even though I'm not a total newb it has been an excellent reference, or starting point for developing my own mix set-ups which vary from project to project anyway. The beauty of this little baby is that all the most common workaday requirements are all skillfully set up in this one little bundle.

Another tip which may be of interest to some is while you have this project in front of you save out the contents of each track folder to a Track Template so when you are just dealing with drums for example start with a new blank project and just load the Drum folder into the blank project and all the required tracks buses and sends are all set up and ready to roll.

For me this is one of the most useful user donated contributions I've seen on any forum.

So pick it apart, enjoy and lets give the man a break here... even if only to give him time to come up with something else as cool....
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