ORIGINAL: jamjar

Brilliant, thanks Jose - you defintely speak my language!!!! In other words, cut through the jargon and just give me a simple example that teaches me exactly what you're talking about.

Well done and thanks

Cool! Answering your question made me realize that it's not easy to explain signal flow in writting. It's one of those things that's easier to explain in person. But I'm glad my post helped ya understand what's going on in JA's template. I learned a lot from it myself (thanks again Jonas!).

Take care!

Thanks, Jonas. Interesting stuff in there!

Thanks Jonas.

Jonbouy turned me on to this.

Very Cool Indeed.

I am finding that I am becoming very happy using the Jonas Template along with primarily Cakewalk's included fx. I still like or feel the need to use a few of Voxengo's great plugs along the way. I have also turned to the Kjaerhus Classic Chorus so I can simulate Cake's fxChorus which does not work in 64bit. I still like the sound of Cake's better, but the classic chorus is close. Jonus also tweaked the pantheon to emulate the EMT Plate setting he had for the fxReverb so I could work with his template in 64bit. What a guy!!!

I can honestly say that my tracking/mixing final products hold up very well to what I might expect at a more expensive studio. I am sure that some of the hardware the larger studios use - do make a difference. But Cakewalk has done of great job of including good sounding and useful plugs. Hats off for that. The 64 series plugs are great! From my perspective their primary job is to create a solid recording daw. Plugs should be secondary - but with Sonar, that is not the case anymore. I am very content. I could not have reached this level of satisfaction without the great template Jonas provided. A real step change here once I started using that template a couple of years back.

IMHO - Jonas is without a doubt the most respected forum contributor!

this is very handy-thank you

Thank you for your kind words.

Like many musicians, I have a bit of a masochistic streak within me.  Although I do have "better" tools available to me, I found that limiting myself to Sonar's included tools to create the template was a useful exercise.

The Sonitus EQ and compressor work very well for individual tracks.  I think CW would do well if they combined several of the Sonitus plugins into a channel strip (EQ, comp gate).  It sounds great and the CPU hit is minimal.

The Cakewalk FX Reverb can hold its own with reverbs that are far more expensive.  It is very competitive with CSR Plate and even the UAD 140 plate.  I think that the reason why it still sounds great is because of its modulation capability.

I think the larger point is that everyone now has the tools necessary to get a very acceptable sound.  Hopefully the template provides some ideas on how to use them. 

Compression, EQ and reverb properly applied can create magic!

J

I love the template also.

NOW, I'm looking forward to Jonas's presets, etc., for setting up the new 8.5 Vocal Strip VX-64.

:-)

Hi Jonas,

I happened upon your template whilst looking at information on the lastest version on Sonar and I am so glad I did! I loaded an old track into it which had previously sounded dull and lifeless and now after some tweaking it sounds great. For a novice like myself this is an awesome tool that has helped me learn much more about the mixing process and I will use it as a starting point for a long time to come.

Thanks for sharing with us both your time and knowledge with this template!

Oh yes, one question if I may? I loaded the template into Sonar 8 and read the release notes which mentioned that the Master Out was set to RMS and as such the mix should be around the -20 mark. I noticed that the demo song provided was peaking at just under 0db on the meters and wondered if this could have been reset by me using a new version of Sonar? Is there an easy way to set this back?

Cheers

Spence 

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Oh yes, one question if I may? I loaded the template into Sonar 8 and read the release notes which mentioned that the Master Out was set to RMS and as such the mix should be around the -20 mark. I noticed that the demo song provided was peaking at just under 0db on the meters and wondered if this could have been reset by me using a new version of Sonar? Is there an easy way to set this back?

Cheers

Spence 

Hey there!
 
I'm not Jonas, but I can help you with your question.  The reason for the disparity is because you're reading the PEAK levels instead of the RMS (Root Median Square) levels as suggested.  To change this, click on the drop-down arrow found next to the Show/Hide All Meters button (It's to the right of the Snap to Grid button in the Tool Bar).  Go down to the end where it says "Bus Meter Options" and select "RMS".  That'll show you the average levels of the song, which is what Jonas was refering to.
 
 
HTH

Thanks Jonas!!!!! Especially for the Ozone Presets!!!