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2010/03/18 22:18:03
Sungod
After coming back to the Sonar forum since Cakewalk sent me a hard to pass up email deal on SPE 8.5, I've snagged a UI Patch and a Mixing Template...Some of you are making it hard not to switch from Samplitude Music Studio back to Sonar.
2010/03/18 23:21:25
rbowser
"...Samplitude Music Studio back to Sonar....

You mean--there's supposed to be a contest there - ?  - ! -

rbowser
2010/03/21 16:18:25
Peter J
bumper
2010/03/21 19:43:21
SF_Green
Jose7822


xpenno

Oh yes, one question if I may? I loaded the template into Sonar 8 and read the release notes which mentioned that the Master Out was set to RMS and as such the mix should be around the -20 mark. I noticed that the demo song provided was peaking at just under 0db on the meters and wondered if this could have been reset by me using a new version of Sonar? Is there an easy way to set this back?

Cheers

Spence 

Hey there!
 
I'm not Jonas, but I can help you with your question.  The reason for the disparity is because you're reading the PEAK levels instead of the RMS (Root Median Square) levels as suggested.  To change this, click on the drop-down arrow found next to the Show/Hide All Meters button (It's to the right of the Snap to Grid button in the Tool Bar).  Go down to the end where it says "Bus Meter Options" and select "RMS".  That'll show you the average levels of the song, which is what Jonas was refering to.
 
 
HTH


I'm not Jonas, but I can help you with your question. The reason for the disparity is because you're reading the PEAK levels instead of the RMS (Root Median Square) levels as suggested. To change this, click on the drop-down arrow found next to the Show/Hide All Meters button (It's to the right of the Snap to Grid button in the Tool Bar). Go down to the end where it says "Bus Meter Options" and select "RMS". That'll show you the average levels of the song, which is what Jonas was refering to.


Ah - enlightenment...

Many thanks for this Jose!!
2010/03/25 14:36:49
Melvin J.
Could I get someone to explain to me how the dual mono sub master bus (stereo splitter) increases width/depth?
When could this routing scheme be to a mixes detriment? IE, would it mess up some stereo effects making them artificially too wide or anything like that?
I am using this template on a project and really liking it thus far, I'm just looking for a good bit more insight into dual mono splitting, really. Are there any links to more info on this subject?
2010/03/25 15:27:12
wrkactjob
Thanks Jonas!
2010/03/25 16:16:18
jsaras
If you have a compressor with an "unlink" function, the dual mono sub master bus (stereo splitter) is not needed.  
2010/03/26 13:33:12
patm300e
Thanks Jonas...Been using your Ozone presets for a while now...
 
2010/03/28 00:59:46
Melvin J.
@jsaras- I scoured the internet and looked at about every dual mono capable compressor out there and was still left unsatisfied with my research. I am wondering where you got your technique of splitting to dual mono and recombining into stereo from?
2010/03/29 12:17:57
jsaras
The technique has probably been around since the 50's.  Charles Dye spends some time discussing it in his "Mix It Like A Record" video.  What happens is that the left and right compressors (or a single compressor in unlinked mode) will react slightly differently creating a stereo image that is a little animated/dynamic.  As long as you are not slamming the compressor(s) too hard you shouldn't enounter any unpleasant shifts in the stereo image. 
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