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Just use FX chains within prochannel.   Than prochannel can be whatever you need it to be as long as you have VSTs that do what you're looking for.   Unless I'm missing something, why isn't that the solution to the prochannel requests?

The problem with FX Chains in the ProChannel is that they take up quite a lot of vertical space for what they are, especially if you're only using them to host one plugin. And let's say you're mixing VST plugins in a signal chain with  ProChannel modules. You might have VST->PC Module->VST->PC Module->VST. You'd need 3 FX Chain modules in that chain, and that's a lot of wasted vertical space. 

Sandwiching FX Chains between PC modules in most cases takes up no more space than comparable PC modules. In fact, FX Chains can take up less space.

They could still take up much less space, and that would be a good thing. Tbh I don't use a lot of the dedicated PC modules, except maybe the VKFX ones and of course the Quadcurve EQ. The reason I use the ProChannel over the FX Bins is because I find the FX bins to be small and fiddly, and there isn't much room for very many effects before you have to start scrolling them. With the ProChannel I can see my whole processing chain at a glance, and move things around very easily. But yes, vertical space is a problem - I'd rather keep that to a minimum if possible, and the FX Chain modules do waste a lot of space when you only have one effect in them. At least in the case of other modules there's an excuse to use all that vertical room - the controls you're using fill the space. But in the case of FX Chain modules with only one effect, you've got all that blank space wasted. Would be nice to just be able to insert effects that only took up the height of their name, without having to use an FX Chain. 

I think a modification of the PC fx chain for use with single vst/dx plugin would work well. Then all it would need is a button to select to open the select plugin menu and another to open the gui in a flyout.

scook
Sandwiching FX Chains between PC modules in most cases takes up no more space than comparable PC modules. In fact, FX Chains can take up less space.

FX chain takes up a third of my screen height (On HD res). If I want a Vst pre Quad EQ and another after, that's a lot of unnecessary space for what could just be a two single strip headers.

True, however; if you want 20 plug-ins before and 20 plug-ins after the QCEQ, they take up no more space than one before or after. That and the person making the original comment about sandwiching FX Chains and PC modules has admitted they do not use PC modules in the first place and instead are looking for a redesign of how plug-ins are displayed in the PC. It would appear your interest too.
 
The topic of the thread could not be more misleading, the examples more self serving. Are there ways the PC could be modified by Cakewalk? Of course there are. Is it the best use of Cakewalk resources? Can't say for sure but I doubt it. I hope they don't bother creating a flyout option for plug-ins that already have freestanding UIs. This is especially true for manufacturers that have gone to the trouble of providing scalable UIs.
 
That said, did Cakewalk create this forum to serve as a discussion area for new features? They did not. This area is intended to discuss how to use the existing product. Cakewalk provided another area to discuss feature requests. I have not bothered to look for existing feature requests to satisfy this thread but it would not surprise me if they were already on file.

When you collapse the FX chain, it would be smaller with lots of VSTs, but it would take about 9 to be the same as the simple header I suggested in post 8 . 20 is an odd example though, as you can only view 5 at a time in the FX chain, and then you scroll through them.
 
The fly out would just be the normal VST GUI opening, I wasn't suggesting a re-design, it does not need to be that complicated really.
 
Yep there are feature requests in (though I have lost faith in that area meaning anything, before or after it's move). It's a tagent from the topic title, but that's seems the norm here. I think the answer to the topic title is 'no' currently.
 
 
 

Kamikaze
When you collapse the FX chain, it would be smaller with lots of VSTs, but it would take about 9 to be the same as the simple header I suggested in post 8 . 20 is an odd example though, as you can only view 5 at a time in the FX chain, and then you scroll through them.

No more odd than examples posted by users that they never experience or degenerate cases that do not need to exist based on the current design.
 

Kamikaze
The fly out would just be the normal VST GUI opening, I wasn't suggesting a re-design, it does not need to be that complicated really.

It provides little if any advantage over simply opening the plug-in UI, is a redesign with unknown complexity. At least, I doubt you have an idea how complex the change would be.
 

Kamikaze
Yep there are feature requests in (though I have lost faith in that area meaning anything, before or after it's move).

So place faith in posting here instead? Why not. Post in an area where the thread is sure to be buried and forgotten quickly.
 

Kamikaze
I think the answer to the topic title is 'no' currently.

I think users cannot speak with any authority on the subject. Sure we can review the past and guess about the future. What is the value in that? I suspect the Boz additions were a surprise. Who is to say there will not be more?
 
 

It's just an FX chain with most of the functionality removed that are required for FX chains. I can' see and just how it can be that complicated really. It would provide and alternate way of using VST with PCs and be aesthetically and ergonomically tidier when you don't want to do anthing other than add a VST
 
It's a forum, we are discussing. It's what you do in forums.

Kamikaze
It's just an FX chain with most of the functionality removed that are required for FX chains. I can' see and just how it can be that complicated really.

This is inaccurate. Your request is more than simply removing some FX chain features.
 

Kamikaze
It's a forum, we are discussing. It's what you do in forums.

The people that pay for this forum have asked that feature requests be posted and discussed elsewhere.