2012/12/05 09:18:15
ProMusic27
America is recognize as the country of the lawsuits... I was impressed to see outdoor propaganda of lawyer offices in America... This is forbiden in Brazil... And the law in Brazil is as slow as you can wonder...Is there any possibilities to move a lawsuit against CW if we end up with a white elephant in our studios? I mean, if yes, is it a stupid idea to mobilize ourselves for this? 
2012/12/05 15:04:48
dahjah
You would probably have to move against the parent company being Roland. Class actions are very popular in the US LOL. An if this all ends up as is, then maybe it should be investigated.
2012/12/13 19:49:36
Frick
Hi All,
 
I have a few issues to report;
 
SONAR X2 – with VS700 Control Surface
(There are a lot of issues… as you all are aware.)
 
VS700 Control Surface Plug-in: Vers 1.2
·         Windows 7 - 64-bit
·         SONAR Installation: 32-bit (To take advantage of plugins)
 
1.    Cannot locate a separate v1.3 Control Surface Plug-in as is provided with SONAR X1B Patch… Where is it… or how can I use the X1b Patch to get this plugin into X2???
 
Issues VS700 Jog/Shuttle Control… 
1.    Jog/Shuttle control (in all modes; Acroll, Select Edit and the default... Transport) no longer functions. 
       With Edit, Scroll and Select modes off... the jog/shuttle wheels should default to transport mode...  this is not happening. This was functional after the original install, just stopped working 
  
2.  Also when I enter Scroll or Select mode, I get the cursor... and can controll it with the ^,<,>,v buttons, but not with either of the jog or shuttle wheels. In transport mode the 4 buttons tab me through the track controls.
 
What i've done: Reinstalled the V1.2 Driver, cold boots (PC and VS700) this didn't work.
 
 
Issues programming VS700 ACT Channel Strip Controls…
1. Plug-in: PerfectSpace Reverb v1.4 
    Can Program the following:
·         Dry Gain: Bank 1 – Gain/Level 1
·         Wet Gain: Bank 1 – Gain/Level 2
·         Wet Pan: Bank 1 – Gain/Level 3 
  
    Cannot program:
·         Offset
·         Length
·         Delay 
  
    NOTE: Click ACT Learn, Touch plug-in Control w/mouse, turn knob on VS700, Click ACT learn again… 
    Message: 1 parameter, 1 control touched… Keep parameters? Click OK 
    Result: Parameters not saved. Channel strip display on VS700 not updated.
 
Additional ACT issues with Perfect Space Reverb:
2. Attempted to program Channel Strip Control buttons to control reverse, auto gain, in -> mono, left mono buttons on Perfect space.
Result: ACT commands/parameters not recognized, Channel Strip control display went south…
Display shows the following with NO header;
(Bank 1)               4K           0.0           -30dB                   0.8ms
(Bank 2)               0.5s        2.0          0.0                          100%
(Bank 3)               0.0          0.0          2000.0Hz
(Bank4 Channel Strip Control Buttons) No Function/Blank display
(for example: I wanted to use the Channel Strip Control buttons to enable volume, width, pan, lo pass, hi pass… etc. Can’t do it)
 
NOTE: there is NO paging using Page < > when this state is entered.
After examining values, it looks like a mish-mash of values from the PC4K – Bus Compressor
that was at the top of the particular pro-channel chain for the channel I had selected. Also, There is no bailing out of this state using Command + EQ… you have to click another plug-in in the pro-channel to get out of it, then you can never regain ACT control or display on the VS700. 
 
Synth Rack Control:

1.  VS700 using command + < > does NOT Scroll to the next Synth in the Synth Rack any longer in X2. It does however scroll though pro-channel components.  
2.   Command  + Synth Rack doesn’t open the selected Synth in X2.
 
X-Ray and Plugin focus:
1.    Once a plug-in has lost focus, using X-Ray (VS700 T-Bar), the plug-in remains connected to the Channel strip Control/Display section. However, if a pro-channel component is selected, and the plug-in is brought back into focus, then clicked, the plug-in "seems" to want to take control of the Channel Strip Control, the plagin name is passed back to the Display, then the Channel strip control reverts back to the 1st pro-channel component in the chain. You can never get control of the plugin again in the channel strip… most of the time you have to open to open and close the plug-in twice in order for it to be reflected in the Channel Strip Control/Display again. This is the case with many, if not all plug-ins.
 
 Console Automation: 
1.   When going from Track View to Buss view, the faders do not always go to their known positions. This is moody! 
When this happens, selecting a bus that is in focus (SEL button on channel) causes all faders in the selected fader group to recover their known positions. 

Saving Groups:
1. Add a new group, add prochannel controls (lets say LF Gain on the EQ) from a few channels to the group. Everything stays with the current session... however the group does not save with the project.

    So I tried selecting a few tracks with the mouse, in console view, Right clicked one of the channe sliders and created a new group.. saved and closed the project... re-opened the project and the group stuck, it was fine. Note that the pro-channel attempts left the new group with an astrisk next to the name... I would take this as an indications that the group has not been saved.
 
Well I guess that's enough for now... I've only had the thing a month, and now feeling like I purchased obsolete gear (for good money!)... bums me out! I was Cakewalk/SONAR all the way. Should I be questioning my decision?

Sorry for the length... but you asked. :-)
Frick
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AMEK/TAC 24x16x2 console, 3M Model 79 - 2" 24 trk,  MOTU 24I/O, QUAD Core XEON (16GB Ram, 1 TB), VS700 System, SONAR X2 , yamaha NS10s, Yamaha HS 8s, Axiom pro46, Ensonic ESQ10
 
2012/12/14 07:55:51
kday
We need a user 1 - 10 list of things like above of what's broke with X2. I've heard a lot of different stuff, but I'm just as confused as Ryan on what exactly are folks referring to as a bug or what's broken in X2, other than general vague assessments. If everybody who identified a bug can list their bug as 1. this doesn't work. 2. that dosn't work. 3. etc, like above, than maybe CW can clearly see and test these issues while they're working on fixing what they can identify.
2012/12/14 11:28:48
Dyonight
Hey Kday, do you use X2? I f you do use it, then no list is necessary to actually understand. Same goes for Cakewalk... and CRG...
2012/12/14 17:44:10
Mully
Yeah +1 Dyo.... it would be nice to use the Channel Strip Control section again.... it's part of what set the 700C apart. There is still a lot it can do which is part of why we are hanging on for the update... hanging on albeit by fingernails.
2012/12/14 17:48:00
Mully
Hiya Frick... I've still got jog/shuttle wheel working ok for transport here.

Once it comes to channel strip... all bets are off. It's broken badly and ACT just just doesn't 'act' very well alas.

Here's hoping the update isn't a pipe dream? The beard is a bit longer.
2012/12/14 20:20:05
Norrie
Hey Guys !

Sorry I have not been about much recently been geting the new computer built and busy with work.

Ok so looks like we are getting Sonar X2a this month so lets keep our fingers crossed for a fix for our issues.

Ryan if you can chime in on this next bit that would be grand !

Got a Support ticket reply form waaaaay back regarding the VS-700 control I asked about the pro channel issues and if it was possible to control the take lanes with the VS-700 (if I cant then its back to the mouse each time I want to arm solo control a take lane etc.... )

The Reply I got said ....

Hello,

We have outlined the problems that we are currently working on with the VS700 here in this forum post. Most of this has to do with the ProChannel:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2682176

As far as the Take Lanes go I have no experimented with controlling them from the Take Lans via the VS700. Have you presented this question to the forum? A lot of users are very experienced with the VS700/SONAR.

So guys can you tell me can you control take lanes control from the VS-700 ? ( I feel this is a must for full integration or its back to the mouse each time to solo mute record etc.... )

What are your thoughts ?

My important bugs I hope to see fixed are

1 Channel strip integration - Currently unusable

2 Some times when using soft synths when I solo them and play them then un solo it can cause the synth not to play back until I mute the synth and un mute and play again. 4 There is no Take lane integration and as you see above the staff didn't know if there was.

I have bugs but there X2 related and not so much VS-700 so I will keep them out of here for now :) I am unhappy support didn't check if they had the take lanes working or not on there system instead of telling me to ask here.

If someone can confirm the take lanes are controlled that would be really appreciated ! Norrie

2012/12/14 20:47:28
Crg
You got a response before an update announcement, that's a positive indicator to me.
2012/12/14 20:49:55
kday
Who said we are getting X2a this month of all days?
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