Help I cant find them in the Sonar drop down synth rack where or how do they are they supposed to show up here they used to?? zeta +2 either I must have missed something. They work fine in stand alone???

By "Drop Down synth rack" I assume you mean the menu shown by clicking the plus sign pointed to in the image below

If the plug-in layout is set to the default shown in the red box and the plug-ins are missing from the plug-in list even though the standalone version works the problem is usually the VST scanner needs to be run or the plug-in dlls are not in the scan path.

Thanks and that's what happened! must of been due to the last update? all is well now