scottcmusic
The first thing done in a professional recording studio after drums are recorded is the engineer usually starts applying high and low pass EQ filters on the drums to tame certain rogue frequencies in the extreme upper and lower registers. He also may considerably lower the overall levels of the cymbals in general so they don't eat up a bunch frequency space that the lead vocals will eventually need to shine through clearly. Cymbals can really cut into vocal diction if you don't watch it.
Not to be confrontational, but I believe quite a few engineers would disagree with your first sentence. Most engineers will edit drums for timing and check for hit consistency, replacement or hybridding of sounds before we'll even touch an eq. Once that's done, then we'll worry about eq and literally mixing the kit in with the rest of the instrumentation. Not all engineers have to deal with stuff like that. But most high end clients like some of the ones I work with, demand drum editing and replacement even though they have drummers you can set your watch by.
As for drummers that bash their kits....one of the most annoying things you can be faced with as an engineer working with drums, is a drummer that has no conviction in his/her hits. You literally have to replace hits like that when they fall short. I see a heck of a lot more drummers playing the wimp card than those that whack the drums like they should. It doesn't sound dynamic anymore...it sounds like <insert light hitting drummer of choice> attempting to play in the wrong band. The impact you lose with light hits when something shouldn't be light, is almost demoralizing.
This of course is mostly in rock and metal music, but even in fusion, blues and current country rock, there are serious hits going on in poppy songs and non-ballad types. The majority of radio songs have drum consistency where there are strong or even bashed hits going on, and it's not just due to extreme compression/limiting. Depending on the style of music, a lack of a serious whack can change the entire sound of the band/song negatively.
scottcmusicSo a drummer that insists on bashing the hell out of his kit is really just saying, "Screw the actual tune at hand, and look at me everyone!" It's no different than a lead guitar player insisting on lugging a wall of Marshalls to club gigs and running them all on eleven!
It depends on the situation as well as the material. If you've ever played with an "arena rock" drummer, this is how they play. Heck most hard rock drummers play like that and just about all metal drummers do. So it definitely has its place. It's part of the style and they bash the majority of their music unless it's a ballad. Kinda like if we took the razor sharp sounding guitars out of punk music, it wouldn't be punk anymore. The sounds help to make the style what it is, ya know? :)
It's tough in a club though because everything is too loud anyway. The majority of rooms aren't set up for a live band anyway. Some are so bad acoustically, it doesn't matter how low you try to go. The sound carries and it just bounces all over. Drums are loud, no one else can hear, we all start to turn up. Then of course you get wet napkins thrown at you by the club manager. LOL! I so remember those days!!! We have such a killer soundman now, we can go low and come through our monitors or in-ears. On another note...
One thing I can say....most home recordists mix their cymbals way too loud. They are supposed to be treated as percussive accents, not full blown instruments that should be as loud as a vocal or guitar track. Low pass those babies and lower them to where you can hear them, but not to where they barrel over things within the mix. The only cymbals that can get away with being a bit loud are hats and ride. Even there, it's easy to allow hats to be too loud...but they are acceptable as long as they are eq'd correctly and are not hissing like a snake. :)
-Danny