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  • Reverse engineering pop productions (p.5)
2016/03/09 05:00:40
jpetersen
EDM is different. Live recorded material is where I have admiration and a need for improvement.
2016/03/09 09:11:23
ChristopherM
Karyn
I don't have any ultrasonic transducers in my gig bag...  Will an SM58 do?


Your gear list contains a Studio 192. Assuming you ever use 192 or even "just" 96 kHz sampling rates, you have also to believe that it is worth caring about signal in the 40 kHz region too (even if you can't actually hear it) or you are just wasting bandwidth. I hasten to add that I don't have any real clue what goes on in these regions and I would never claim to hear the difference. I am simply following the logic of the sampling theorem, here.
 
I sometimes comfort myself by thinking in octaves instead - that 96 kHz leap from 96 to 192 only requires another seven white keys on my Supersonic Steinway  
2016/03/09 18:56:55
BenMMusTech
jpetersen
EDM is different. Live recorded material is where I have admiration and a need for improvement.




https://soundcloud.com/aaudiomystiks/girl
Here is a proper recorded track using my new technique, I think you will find this to your liking.  And by proper track, drums recorded in a studio, vocals too.  Alice and I layed the drums and rhythm track down without a click track, Alice on drums, me on guitar.  The only virtual instruments, are Mellotron, and I replaced the toms.
 
Ben
2016/03/10 10:53:57
Wood67
jpetersen
 
There is a video interview with folks that recorded with Max Martin, Ms. Spears included. And they all say he tells them exactly how to sing, how to phrase with the beat and will not let go until it is perfect. They say he is quite a task master.



Too true.  I spent a questionable 2 weeks as stand-in tape-op with Mutt Lange working on Bryan Adam's Waking up the Neighbors album.  I have never before or since worked with anyone with that level of intense perfection, and in truth it was a defining moment for me that made me ultimately quit as a professional engineer because it took out the joy of spontaneity. Astonishing attention to detail (a whole day spent moving individual hi-hats back and forth by 3ms) was just too much for my young head.  My flatmate endured an entire Shania Twain album immediately after that.  Drove him nearly insane, he also quit and we ended up driving 20,000km through Australia to normalise ourselves.
2016/03/11 07:12:46
jpetersen
Very interesting. Thanks for that insight! - despite it having been a negative experience for you.
2016/03/11 13:29:05
jude77
@wood67:
 
I think you did an excellent job describing what separates the Pros from the Wannabes.  The pros I've worked with tend to be deeply obsessional people who won't stop until they get darn near perfection.  Like you, it drives me crazy, but then they're selling tons of records and I'm posting on an internet forum . . . .
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