Well, I'm glad this is a guitar forum...

That's not an ignorant, arrogant, and offence remark...

Nope, not at all...

Thanks for sharing....

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ORIGINAL: droddey

Well, I'm glad this is a guitar forum...

That's not an ignorant, arrogant, and offence remark...

Nope, not at all...

Thanks for sharing....

It's an example of what's called a "Joke". This type of "Joke" is a statement intended to convey humor by a purposeful distortion of reality, and is not intended to be taken seriously. Some people have trouble recognizing this type of "Joke". In such circumstances, we recommend looking at those around you. If they are laughing, follow along on the assumption that the statement was in fact such a "Joke".

No, after hearing joke, after joke, after joke, after joke of drummers, it gets irritating.. Esp all the "drummers are the drumb ones", "drummers have no talent"... And my fav... The "Any guitarist is a better drummer than a drummer" - that one the guy was actually serious... I don't need you to tell me what is a joke or not.. I knew it was a joke... There are some jokes that shouldn't be told... Black / white jokes comes to mind.. Gay jokes come to mind... And, after hearing it over, and over, these type of jokes tend to remind me of those racisest jokes...

You haven't been around that long... Stick around, the drummer jokes are thick here.. I'd say that 98% of the people here are guitarist, just like in the real world - EVERYBODY plays guitar... So, I usally let them joke, until they say something as arrigont as the post that was made here..

I can take a joke like anyone else.. But to say that we are talentless, and not musicians, and the like... I won't sit around and read that, without saying something... I'd like to see how people would react if I started posted these kind of jokes about guitarist...

How about this... Of course you can play guitar, any idiot can play guitar... You can practice anytime you want, and it's cheap / easy to learn.. Any fool can play guitar, it doesn't take talent...

You like that ???

If anyone has any good guitarist jokes, whip'em out. It doesn't bother me. I play guitar, bass, a little keyboards and at least 'virtual drums', so I figure they all apply to me to some degree or another. I'm not sure I'd put drummer jokes on the same par as racial or sexual orientation jokes, since drummers as a whole aren't a genetically defined group or politically disenfranchised or anything like that. Well, maybe musicians as a whole are slightly genetically defined and somewhat politically disenfranchised (by choice more than anything else), but it's not quite the same thing. I don't think I've ever seen "Percussionists Go Home" scrawled on the side of a building before :-)

How about this... Of course you can play guitar, any idiot can play guitar... You can practice anytime you want, and it's cheap / easy to learn.. Any fool can play guitar, it doesn't take talent...

You like that ???

The difference is, I couldn't possibly take such a statement seriously. We all know guitar is much harder than drums. (Just kidding!)

Seriously, you can't let that kind of stuff bother you. I play with drummers who are much better musicians than I'll ever be, but I still give them crap and make the usual drummer jokes whenever possible. And they give it right back to me. It's a constant back and forth. But we also give praise and make it known that we enjoy making music together.

As someone who dabbles in drumming from time to time, I know how difficult it really is. If someone actually is serious in saying that drummers are not really musicians, then I could never take that person seriously. I may be an exception, but I'd say about 75% of the drummers I have played with in the last couple of years also play other instruments and/or compose their own stuff or really study music (as opposed to just messing around and jamming randomly with friends for fun) or teach for a living.

I don't think I've ever seen "Percussionists Go Home" scrawled on the side of a building before :-)

Ahem. No, not on a wall.



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Hmmm.... OK, so maybe they are discriminated group. Somebody want to contact the United Nations on this one? A telethon maybe? Can we get Jerry Lewis for this one?

A telethon maybe

Or start some kind of online donation thing or fund, like - a clickfund.

...for the Rhytmically Challenged?

The stupid irony about this is that, while I can play to a click track just fine (drum tracks, even), I still can't drum for beans (well, on a real trap set, at least). Something about the sticks, or what somebody said earlier about the feet... but I'll be the first to admit, in my case it's 100% because of the absence of practice on that particular instrument.

About being the butt of jokes... The best way to deflect derogatory remarks is with a smile. If people don't move on to the next subject quickly, then they are small and they don't deserve getting angry over. Perfect love really does cover over a multitude of sins.

ORIGINAL: Jose7822

I think its much easier, and more natural (at least in my experiece) to play with a click on 2 and 4 only.

I don't know about others, but for me having a metronome click on 2 & 4 automatically switches my brain to swing mode (especially on fast tempos). But not if it's a slow tempo.

Okay, 1 and 3 then. My point was that I think its easier to sinc with two mechanical beats, within a four bar structure as you're playing, than four.

But your right on. I first discovered that years ago when I was practicing Charlie Parker heads on my guitar (and struggling to play them in time/tempo). You can actually swing, playing with a metronome on 2 and 4.

"I don't know about others, but for me having a metronome click on 2 & 4 automatically switches my brain to swing mode (especially on fast tempos). But not if it's a slow tempo. "

It would put me into Reggae mode, which means I'd have to go find a giant spleef and all that. Way too much trouble...

LOL I guess that would work too (Reggae mode).