2018/04/05 06:49:51
Linear Phase
Base 57
I have a dinosaur exhibit in my garage that cost more than a new car. A really nice friggin car.

 
Ah yeah, well I bought a Microsoft Surface 3 when it first came out and Amazon gave me a $20 gift card when I sent it to them.
2018/04/05 09:06:55
Wibbles
sharke
For the life of me I cannot fathom why anyone would be in the slightest bit bothered that Sonar is now free. When you bought it, things were different. It was a paid product, and the owners had no intention of making it free. Now it's owned by someone else, and that person wants to make it free. Nobody's ripped you off, or pulled wool over your eyes, or pulled a rug from underneath you, or disrespected you or anything else. 
 
Honestly man the whining and moaning at Bandlab is starting to seriously p*** me off. It's pathetic. Grown adults whimpering like kids and acting like some major injustice has been perpetrated. Before Bandlab came on the scene you had NOTHING regarding any kind of definite future for Sonar. It might have just died and been swept into the trashcan of history forever. It got saved at the last minute by a company which sounds like they have a great attitude and who frankly, may well make a success out of Sonar where Roland and Gibson failed. And what happens? The hissing and scratching starts. Nothing is good enough. Bandlab's plan isn't tailor made for my tastes so I'm going to stomp and bang my fists and act like the whole world's against me. Right now we have people whining that 32-bit isn't going to be supported, people whining about there not being an offline activation and people whining that it's going to be free (which has ZERO effect on anything they do with the program). 
 
I know this is going to sound like a cliche but this is one of those moments when you just have to take stock of your life and think about what most of what the human race has to put up with on a daily basis and thank your lucky stars that a piece of software being given away free is the kind of thing that's liable to ruin your day. Damn. 




Spot on.Thanks for putting into words what I'm too lazy to type for myself.
 
There's also been a classic: "I'm not going with Bandlab" followed 10 hours later by "And now I have installed BandLab ..."
2018/04/05 09:28:09
tobiaslindahl
sharke
For the life of me I cannot fathom why anyone would be in the slightest bit bothered that Sonar is now free. When you bought it, things were different. It was a paid product, and the owners had no intention of making it free. Now it's owned by someone else, and that person wants to make it free. Nobody's ripped you off, or pulled wool over your eyes, or pulled a rug from underneath you, or disrespected you or anything else. 
 
Honestly man the whining and moaning at Bandlab is starting to seriously p*** me off. It's pathetic. Grown adults whimpering like kids and acting like some major injustice has been perpetrated. Before Bandlab came on the scene you had NOTHING regarding any kind of definite future for Sonar. It might have just died and been swept into the trashcan of history forever. It got saved at the last minute by a company which sounds like they have a great attitude and who frankly, may well make a success out of Sonar where Roland and Gibson failed. And what happens? The hissing and scratching starts. Nothing is good enough. Bandlab's plan isn't tailor made for my tastes so I'm going to stomp and bang my fists and act like the whole world's against me. Right now we have people whining that 32-bit isn't going to be supported, people whining about there not being an offline activation and people whining that it's going to be free (which has ZERO effect on anything they do with the program). 
 
I know this is going to sound like a cliche but this is one of those moments when you just have to take stock of your life and think about what most of what the human race has to put up with on a daily basis and thank your lucky stars that a piece of software being given away free is the kind of thing that's liable to ruin your day. Damn. 




Thank you! This should  be required reading before peole post any of these weird complaints. Everyone is owed the world these days and feel entitled to everything. Not much to do I guess but to feel a bit sorry for those finding flaws in absolutely everything, must be kind of depressing.
2018/04/05 12:37:46
John T
Personally, I've been using Sonar since you had to summon it in a moonlit grove using goat's bones and ancient chants. And I became furious as soon as they dropped lute support. You young uns don't know what angry is.
2018/04/05 13:12:01
Jim Roseberry
DrBoom
No I'm not upset at anyone's good fortune. WHAT I AM upset about is the lifetime updates that so many of us bought into . Just to be screwed over by them a YEAR later. This was Cakewalks way of screwing over the customer  AT THE END of the DAY. Leaving all of us guys that PAID for it. Yea sure there are some lucky folks right about now enjoying a nice new free daw. But that doesn't make excuses for what Cakewalk did to its paying customers. I think it is time for a lawyer to step in on this. Screw this... I'm done.......



I've been a Cakewalk user since Pro Audio 4.0 (and I paid for Lifetime updates for Platinum).
I don't get the animosity toward the *new* owners...
They didn't "screw anyone over".
They bought the rights to Cakewalk Music Software... not the previous owner's baggage.  
 
What's most likely happening is that BandLab wants to solidify the user-base (perhaps expand it)... and at some point in the not too distant future, offer an upgrade to a new version.
 
BandLab has to start somewhere...
There's (obviously) been a fair amount of attrition... due to the unsure future when Gibson pulled the plug.
2018/04/05 13:43:50
Mesh

2018/04/05 20:30:12
bitflipper
I expect few here have spent more on Cakewalk/SONAR than me, having been with it since Cakewalk for DOS 1.0. Despite that, I have no problem with it becoming free. As a "lifer" I was going to get future upgrades for free anyway, and now that's guaranteed! (For the foreseeable future, anyway, unless BandLab turns around and sells it to Fender.)
 
It doesn't bother me that others will now get something for free that I spent a lot of money on. Heck, I just traded in my old car that cost $48,000 originally - they gave me $2,500 for it. Ouch. I'm not angry about that, either.
 
2018/04/05 20:47:08
ampfixer
Wibbles
sharke
For the life of me I cannot fathom why anyone would be in the slightest bit bothered that Sonar is now free. When you bought it, things were different. It was a paid product, and the owners had no intention of making it free. Now it's owned by someone else, and that person wants to make it free. Nobody's ripped you off, or pulled wool over your eyes, or pulled a rug from underneath you, or disrespected you or anything else. 
 
Honestly man the whining and moaning at Bandlab is starting to seriously p*** me off. It's pathetic. Grown adults whimpering like kids and acting like some major injustice has been perpetrated. Before Bandlab came on the scene you had NOTHING regarding any kind of definite future for Sonar. It might have just died and been swept into the trashcan of history forever. It got saved at the last minute by a company which sounds like they have a great attitude and who frankly, may well make a success out of Sonar where Roland and Gibson failed. And what happens? The hissing and scratching starts. Nothing is good enough. Bandlab's plan isn't tailor made for my tastes so I'm going to stomp and bang my fists and act like the whole world's against me. Right now we have people whining that 32-bit isn't going to be supported, people whining about there not being an offline activation and people whining that it's going to be free (which has ZERO effect on anything they do with the program). 
 
I know this is going to sound like a cliche but this is one of those moments when you just have to take stock of your life and think about what most of what the human race has to put up with on a daily basis and thank your lucky stars that a piece of software being given away free is the kind of thing that's liable to ruin your day. Damn. 




Spot on.Thanks for putting into words what I'm too lazy to type for myself.
 
There's also been a classic: "I'm not going with Bandlab" followed 10 hours later by "And now I have installed BandLab ..."


Well Wibbles, I'm NOT going with Bandlab. I installed it because I need access to all the software I purchased until I'm clear of all my ongoing Sonar projects. I have been told that if I didn't get on board that access could not be guaranteed. If I could D/L all my stuff and simply use codes to activate it I would.
2018/04/05 20:51:49
michael diemer
Mesh



Careful, the thought police may get you and force you to undergo mental retraining to straighten-out your incorrect thinking. 
2018/04/05 20:52:51
Slugbaby
deleted because i'd rather not get into pointless fights with strangers on the interwebs...
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