Have you ever listened to The Varukers? I think they were the ones to really nail not just the musicianship and energy but the "proper" (subjective) way to mix hardcore punk in the early days. Unfortunately no one paid much attention to those production values.
 
it's been a while since i've heard that name, killer band..
 
the Pistols, what can you say like em" or not they made a big dent on the music machine..
Melcolm Mclaren was a total fool, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face...
i think The Germs were in better shape then the Cramps...
and i kind of liked the Runaways and i can see where Kim Fowley would have a big impact on Joan Jett he knew how to get the right people together. i'm sure Joan Jett took that with her..
 
 
 

Jarsve
My point is sort of, if your guitar sounds bad you can put on the best mics/preamps, EQ, compression and so on, but you wont make gold out of it.

My point is that even IF you guitar sounds awesome, if the notes you play with it are some pathetic, uninteresting pile of bubblegum cliche garbage, not preamp in the world will make much of  a difference :)
That was sort of my original point, that maybe, just maybe, we focus too much on the packaging and not enough on what is in the package. 

Mojo Risen
 it's been a while since i've heard that name, killer band..
 

I got to see them at Cafe Chaos in Montreal about ten years ago. They... just... RIPPED!!! Every square inch of that room was vibrating/flooded with sound but the clarity was amazing which is rare for hardcore acts in a smaller venue. I think they may have brought their own sound guy but most of it was likely just having exactly the right gear dialed in perfectly to compliment everything else.

That must have been crazy good, early Clash was cool like that.. raw and primal.
I saw the Stone Temple Pilots years back at the key arena in Seattle. i was way up in the nose bleed seats they made em" 
rumble, for a three piece they could really rock...
 
 

Mojo Risen
That must have been crazy good, early Clash was cool like that.. raw and primal.

Damn, the full clip of this must have gotten taken down.
 
The Clash - White Riot
 
The entire vid starts with a near brawl between the sound crew and The Clash's crew. I guess they got cut short so one dude has the mic and just screams "MOAR CLASH!! MOAR CLASH!!" over and over again whipping the crowd into a frenzy. You can hear one of the sound people yell "Turn that idiot's mic off!" and a bunch of people arguing and getting in each others faces.
 
Eventually they are allowed to play their encore (and it just blazes because they're pissed off and jacked on adrenaline). At the end it showed the band leaving the stage and everyone trading parting barks.
 
Cool as sh*t.
 
Damn. I wish I could find the whole thing.

And STP did some cool stuff. I did a cover of Gasoline in one of my very first bands. It's a groovy and understatedly heavy riff.
 
I was more into Alice In Chains for that style though. Well at least the Dirt album. That album was actually a huge influence on my vocals.
 
That bluesy/freaky deaky sense of melody was really cool and once you toss in Cantrell's harmonies... fuggedaboutit.
 
Staley was like a modernized Sabbath era Ozzy. Loved that shniz. I lost interest when they went all acoustic though. Those songs are still really nice but I have other favorites if I want to listen to mellower stuff.
 
/ramble

Beepster
And STP did some cool stuff. I did a cover of Gasoline in one of my very first bands. It's a groovy and understatedly heavy riff.
 
I was more into Alice In Chains for that style though. Well at least the Dirt album. That album was actually a huge influence on my vocals.
 
That bluesy/freaky deaky sense of melody was really cool and once you toss in Cantrell's harmonies... fuggedaboutit.
 
Staley was like a modernized Sabbath era Ozzy. Loved that shniz. I lost interest when they went all acoustic though. Those songs are still really nice but I have other favorites if I want to listen to mellower stuff.
 
/ramble

another band that killed live.. they were over produced in the studio, the recordings sounded good but they were so good live they really didn't need all the extra goodies.. it's to bad fame gave them such a rough ride..
BTW if thats what your vocal sounds like i say cool, do you have a recording uploaded to the song section?

Beepster
Damn, the full clip of this must have gotten taken down.
 
The Clash - White Riot
 
The entire vid starts with a near brawl between the sound crew and The Clash's crew. I guess they got cut short so one dude has the mic and just screams "MOAR CLASH!! MOAR CLASH!!" over and over again whipping the crowd into a frenzy. You can hear one of the sound people yell "Turn that idiot's mic off!" and a bunch of people arguing and getting in each others faces.
 
Eventually they are allowed to play their encore (and it just blazes because they're pissed off and jacked on adrenaline). At the end it showed the band leaving the stage and everyone trading parting barks.
 
Cool as sh*t.
 
Damn. I wish I could find the whole thing.

yo that looks like a white riot... there is a movie kicking around called The Punk Rock Movie.
if you ever get a chance to see it check it out it will blow you away. it used to be on youtube but they pulled it...
 

Naw. It's mostly guitar nerd stuff. I haven't been able to track full on vox since I've actually had the gear to do so (had to abandon my bandroom(s) so got into home nerdlingery).
 
There are old (crappy) recordings of me doin' Cobain and/or Grohl but nothin' readily available.
 
I actually got more into Shane MacGowan and Luke Kelly for vocal stuff later on.
 
These days I think if I really opened up I'd end up sounding like something gurgling up from Leonard Cohen's grave.
 
May he RIP.

Mojo Risen
yo that looks like a white riot... there is a movie kicking around called The Punk Rock Movie.
if you ever get a chance to see it check it out it will blow you away. it used to be on youtube but they pulled it...
 

 
YT is kind of like a "whackamole" game when it comes to musical content.
 
One day it's there... the next it ain't.
 
Understandable whut whiff copyrights and the like but it's still annoying after finding some gem of a performance.