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  • Render To Clips vs. Bounce
2017/07/06 16:04:34
brconflict
Is there a way to "Render to Clips", vs. Bounce to Clips, that bypasses FX, PC, Automation, and anything else done on the track or the clip other than just edits?

In the Splitting and Combining Clips Documentation, the suggested method to combine clips is to Bounce, which applies FX, automation, etc., but I don't want to apply them after editing/comping.


2017/07/06 16:17:06
mettelus
Only clip FX should be embedded into a clip bounce. All track level FX, automation, etc. would only be of concern in a bounce to track situation. Unless clip FX are used (not commonly done), a "bounce to clip" would simply combine/embed edits done to a clip.
2017/07/06 16:39:27
brconflict
mettelus
Only clip FX should be embedded into a clip bounce. All track level FX, automation, etc. would only be of concern in a bounce to track situation. Unless clip FX are used (not commonly done), a "bounce to clip" would simply combine/embed edits done to a clip.


I think you're right. Actually, I need to try and disable the FX bin, then Bounce-to-Clip to see if that works as I'm hoping.
2017/07/06 16:48:05
chuckebaby
You don't need to disable FX bins unless your FX bins are on the clip.
If they are in the FX bins they will not be included in a bounce to clips function.
2017/07/06 17:28:53
brconflict
chuckebaby
You don't need to disable FX bins unless your FX bins are on the clip.
If they are in the FX bins they will not be included in a bounce to clips function.


Any FX in on the track in the FX bin, along with Gain/Volume automation, etc. do apparently affect the Bounce To Clips for me. Could there be a setting I'm overlooking to bypass that globally, maybe?


2017/07/06 18:23:55
chuckebaby
Bounce to clips only effects the clips them selves, not any FX unless those FX are in the clip FX bin.
However, Freezing is a bit different. are you freezing clips ?
2017/07/06 18:32:14
brconflict
chuckebaby
Bounce to clips only effects the clips them selves, not any FX unless those FX are in the clip FX bin.
However, Freezing is a bit different. are you freezing clips ?


Nah, just bouncing to clips. By the documentation, only Automation will be applied (which I'd like to also bypass--less of a tribulation, however). I'm going to try some fresh tests this weekend. Could be related to only the project I was working in.


2017/07/06 20:35:48
brconflict
So, now it's got me curious as to whether Automation still takes effect if I un-tick the Automation Read button and then 'Bounce to Clip". One would assume it should no longer affect the clip bounce.
2017/07/06 21:35:30
bitflipper
I bounce clips all the time, usually to combine multiple clips into one, to apply clip fx or to apply Melodyne or VocalSync edits. None of those things would work right if track fx and/or automation was being applied during the bounce. You shouldn't have to do anything special to prepare for bouncing a clip.
2017/07/06 21:40:08
chuckebaby
I've never had Automation imbedded in a clip when I've used "Bounce to clips".
Bounce to tracks on the other hand is a different story. Bounce to clips should only be effecting clip data/Slip edit data to create smaller clips in to 1 large clip or to remove hidden data points of a clip.
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