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2018/04/05 03:45:07
sharke
ampfixer
I am officially dumping Sonar today. Giving it away just makes pirates look like visionaries. Anderton was applauding this move but he always said pirates were killing the industry. What a steaming pile this has become. 




Don't understand your animosity to the freebie thing at all. There is nothing "piratey" about giving it away. The salient feature of piracy is that you're taking a paid product and stealing it. Bandlab is doing nothing of that description. They see in Sonar a way to draw people into their other revenue streams. And why not? Sonar was not competing well at all in the "conventional" DAW market. Bandlab has likely hit upon the only way to make it financially viable to develop, and they have likely increased its potential user base tenfold. The more people are using Sonar, the better it is for everyone involved. Sonar starts getting noticed. More tutorial videos come out for it. The user base creates revenue for Bandlab, who then have more money to develop Sonar. There will be more polish, more bug fixes, and it will likely turn into a pretty healthy DAW with a reputation. Its user base will get younger. Plugin developers will concentrate more on supporting Sonar. It's probably about the only chance it will get to survive. 
2018/04/05 04:00:38
Beepster
I am reserving my final judgement for after I get off my duff and figure out WTF(udge) just happened.
 
*ent like movements*
2018/04/05 04:46:31
michael diemer
I took a year and a half sojourn with Reaper, paid the 60.00 license fee. To this day, the orchestral project I did with it is the best sounding piece I have done, but that's probably because the others were all done in Sonar 8.5 or earlier. Now that I have an up to date version of sonar, hopefully I can match that. But Reaper is indeed impressive. It's the only DAW besides Sonar I can use. Sonar's workflow is just easier for me.
 
Reaper devs are working on a Linux version. If they ever get it to the point where it works with Windows VSTs, it will be extremely tempting. I am on Windows only because of music. I use Linux for everything else. I'm even fooling around with a BSD system. But for many folks, it will soon be possible to do on Linux what they now do with Reaper on Windows, and that is amazing. Those guys are geniuses.
2018/04/05 07:49:02
Team Green
If Cakewalk went to the Linux OS I would drop windows so fast, I love Linux and the only beef I've got with Reaper is the overloaded drop-down menus etc.. It's a great program but it takes a lot of navigation to figure out simple tasks.
2018/04/05 10:36:15
Kamikaze
ampfixer
I am officially dumping Sonar today. Giving it away just makes pirates look like visionaries. Anderton was applauding this move but he always said pirates were killing the industry. What a steaming pile this has become. 


Why did you install it 10 hours later then then?
http://forum.cakewalk.com/New-Bandlab-version-will-mess-with-your-Platinum-install-m3745012.aspx
 
 
2018/04/05 11:02:21
Wibbles
Just so he could have a moan about it? 
2018/04/05 13:16:45
Kalle Rantaaho
michael diemer
I took a year and a half sojourn with Reaper, paid the 60.00 license fee. To this day, the orchestral project I did with it is the best sounding piece I have done, but that's probably because the others were all done in Sonar 8.5 or earlier. Now that I have an up to date version of sonar, hopefully I can match that. But Reaper is indeed impressive. It's the only DAW besides Sonar I can use. Sonar's workflow is just easier for me.
 



How does the DAW affect the sound of the project, in your opinion, if you have used the same interface and same third party virtual instruments or live instruments?? Are the FX and other VSTs so much better in Reaper? Sounds hard to believe.
Or did a nicer workflow lead to a better results? I've always taken it for a 99,9% fact that there's no way you can tell the sound of different DAWs from each other.
2018/04/05 13:51:18
S.L.I.P.
Loving Reaper, could care less about the new free cake
2018/04/05 14:24:25
Kamikaze
S.L.I.P.
Loving Reaper, could care less about the new free cake


So you care a bit then?
2018/04/05 19:17:13
michael diemer
Post deleted while editing, but to your point Kalle, I can't explain why my piece sounded better in Reaper. It could be that a different workflow forced me to do some things differently, and that somehow resulted in better sound.
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