• SONAR
  • Why Cakewalk removed all the mac info from the website? (p.5)
2017/03/08 23:58:28
coolbass
azslow3
 
 
So, my opinion is that current silence is the best approach from the marketing and product management perspective




Well, good for you, but their silence is losing them here  a customer to Reaper.
A short message that the port is taking them a bit longer, is the way to go.
What is the problem with informing your customers?
Leaving everyone in the dark makes no sense.
2017/03/09 00:25:33
JohanSebatianGremlin
reza
The only thing we need just a simple update that says why they didn't release the alpha in fall. That's it. No further information. 


Not even a why. Just something that says the project is still in development and an updated schedule will be coming would be enough for me. The silence just leaves one to speculated that the whole project has been scrapped.


2017/03/09 02:32:45
Anderton
I think it's worth noting that no one has said that an alpha version will not be available. If that was the case, then it would indicate decisions had been made. Until then, I assume things are the same as before...an alpha version will be released. 
 
I agree it would be advisable to give some kind of update, even if it was just "the dog ate my homework." I think the most likely reason for the lack of a statement could be that various aspects of the whole thing are still up in the air. They already made a mistake by making a definitive statement, so I suspect they're waiting until they can make a definitive statement that won't come back to bite them.
2017/03/09 04:40:19
bitman
I for one didn't buy into lifetime updates to get a MAC sonar license but to have lifetime updates.
And I like em!
2017/03/09 13:23:37
JohanSebatianGremlin
Anderton
I think it's worth noting that no one has said that an alpha version will not be available. 
This is true. But removing all mention from the website without any statement that the project is still active tends to send the message that the project no longer exists.
 
The best dating advice I ever heard was this: If its not a yes, its a no. When you ask someone for a date and the response is 'that's a great idea but I'm really swamped this week so I doubt I'll have time yada yada yada, we tend to remain hopeful and take that as a yes, just not this week. Its not a yes but... its a no. Don't ask again next week, cut your losses and move on because if its not a yes this week, its never going to be a yes. Period. Best dating advice ever.
 
Human nature being what it is, I find that same logic applies and is often true in many other areas. If it ain't a yes, its a no. And right now, according to what we know from the website, Sonar for Mac as future prospect is not a yes. If its still on, why not say so?
2017/03/09 13:27:54
chuckebaby
coolbass
azslow3
 
 
So, my opinion is that current silence is the best approach from the marketing and product management perspective


 
Leaving everyone in the dark makes no sense.




I don't believe everyone is in the dark.
 
For example, some users don't even care. (I am one of those people).
Im not waiting for an Alpha version to do any serious work on. Matter of fact, I would rather they either A- release a good working version or B- have others test the Alpha and then when I know its stable, I will put it on my MAC book.
 
Imagine if they released a half baked version ? 
Im only guessing here... but I think the response would be a lot worse than "Where's the Mac version" ?
 
For you guys who are waiting though, I hope you hear something soon.
I can understand your frustration (not all of it) but most of it. yes I can.
2017/03/09 13:59:03
Afrodrum
They should at least cut the speculations about the Mac project being allegedly abandoned.
2017/03/09 20:02:29
reza
mettelus
As some people paid money with the expectation of the alpha version is where contention has always lied. People don't go ape over Ripple Delete because it wasn't a "hey pay us and you will get that benefit."

There is a subset of people who bought into lifetime upgrades only for the Mac alpha. Those people paid money without delivery of product. The wishy washy wording of that can be dealt with at a higher level, but the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) specifically has a complaint vehicle for this behavior from companies as consumer protection. Anyone can file those, and they get investigated with enough information given.

Therein lies non-communication being bad. Payment (specifically) for expected product not received falls into levels of fraud. First point is getting money back, so if anyone falls into that category above, check out FTC.gov/complaint



%100 agree.
2017/03/09 20:23:47
reza
By the way, If here is the peer to peer forum, and we shouldn't expect someone behalf of cakewalk respond, so there are lots of threads here that they simply responded and answered the question. 
Please don't try to convince the others by saying they want to keep secure their business so they won't spread information. If they didn't want to speak about it, they didn't even say anything about the alpha version. Or at least didn't say about the release time. They did because they wanted the others to know about it. So why the secrecy.
For sure they already calculated what they are doing before announcing.
 
 
2017/03/09 21:31:10
Sanderxpander
Their mistake was giving a timeline at all initially. If they had just said "we'll be developing an OSX Alpha" people wouldn't be as upset now. But them giving a timeline obligates them ethically to give an update when it has turned out so inaccurate. FWIW, I'm not interested in a Mac version except as a tool to help Cakewalk along, so I hope that if they do release it it's not an Alpha but kicks ass with full ARA, Mix Recall, the works. Show Logic it's a contender, it's already thrice the price.
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