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  • Is this a latency issue? (p.3)
2012/07/14 18:51:56
jdelgado
jimmypop13


I'm using a line6 toneport ux2 usb interface and a novation sl mkII usb midi keyboard so they're both separate and using different usb ports. I'm using the asio line6 driver. I've been told the line6 toneport isn't that great of an interface so maybe it could be causing some issue. I'm going to be using it all day tomorrow so I'll play around with some of your suggestions.
Thanks

Hi Jimmypo13,
 
I have a similar setup. Am having problems with the soft syths, particularly Session Drummer. It plays out of time with the rest of the midi tracks
Are you experiencing same?
2012/07/15 00:21:04
Blogman
I too have run into this and my fix was to go into the Configuration file (Edit, Preferences ((or just P)) Audio, Configuration file... Look for "Enable Device Output Latency Compensation.... Set this to 'False'.... hit apply. that should fix your trouble of Sonar 'over compensating'.
2012/07/15 00:31:42
bobguitkillerleft
I recently attempted to turn my standard electric guitar into a Bass,via the "pitch shifter" in Amplitube3,and after much messing about[losing the phaser etc]I thought that the result was ok.......until,on playback the Bass parts sounded like a gig I played many many moons ago,where we all got super drunk,as we were the headline act over Rose Tattoo[minus Angry A-lead singer],and the heaviest bikers in Sydney packed the venue,and actually stayed to watch us!!!

I seriously thought we would all be killed,but we lived,with a bad enough hangover to make me [finally]realise how poisonous alcohol is.
Bob  http://soundcloud.com/rks26
2012/07/15 01:41:56
chuckebaby
bobguitkillerleft


I recently attempted to turn my standard electric guitar into a Bass,via the "pitch shifter" in Amplitube3,and after much messing about[losing the phaser etc]I thought that the result was ok.......until,on playback the Bass parts sounded like a gig I played many many moons ago,where we all got super drunk,as we were the headline act over Rose Tattoo[minus Angry A-lead singer],and the heaviest bikers in Sydney packed the venue,and actually stayed to watch us!!!

I seriously thought we would all be killed,but we lived,with a bad enough hangover to make me [finally]realise how poisonous alcohol is.
Bob  http://soundcloud.com/rks26

if i may ask sir...what does this have to do with this thread?
this is just random jargin.
2012/07/15 01:49:12
bobguitkillerleft
So deeply sorry "Chuckee" I thought the thread was about latency in general,but,now you have so succinctly pointed out my experiences have nothing to do with MIDI,or PRV,so sorry......you should be hired as a cakewalk cop,dishing out electric shocks,to peeple like me who talk without adhering exactly to the context!!!!
Hi
Bob http://soundcloud.com/rks26
2012/07/15 05:22:42
Freddie H
jimmypop13


Well I don't feel off when I'm playing. I feel like while I'm recording on my midi keyboard, I'm playing dead on with the metronome click and I don't notice a delay from the time I press a key to hearing the sound from the soft synth. I must just be playing ahead then. Doh!
I don't have Sonar in front of me at the moment but I'll definitely have to find the quantize algorithm you mentioned. Sounds perfect.

Yes your metronome fools you in SONAR because of audio latency. Its a known problem. 
 
 
Here is how to fix it!
You need to make a "Metronome BUS" send the output from the "METRONOME/Click"-Preference to that BUS.
On the "METRONOME"-BUS send the specific output but to "MASTER BUS" in SONAR. 
 
As you can see all MIDI recordings lines up correctly during recording when you follow the CLICK/Metronome.
 
2012/07/15 05:29:23
Freddie H
Regarding of latency calibration of AUDIO interface!

More INFO here!
http://rhythminmind.net/1313/?p=1022#more-1022
 
 
 
 
Understanding external hardware gain staging (with the DAW in mind).
 
http://rhythminmind.net/1313/?p=3224
2013/04/21 16:24:17
FractauralMotif
go into the Configuration file (Edit, Preferences ((or just P)) Audio, Configuration file... Look for "Enable Device Output Latency Compensation.... Set this to 'False'.... hit apply. that should fix your trouble of Sonar 'over compensating'.
Blogman

Thank you, thank you!!!  I have been getting so frustrated with this MIDI synchronization problem where recorded MIDI notes were always ~20ms early, and was having a hard time finding anything in forums about it.  Making this adjustment fixed my problem!  I'm using Cakewalk Sonar X1 Essential, with all latest patches.


2017/06/29 05:53:28
taccess
FractauralMotif
go into the Configuration file (Edit, Preferences ((or just P)) Audio, Configuration file... Look for "Enable Device Output Latency Compensation.... Set this to 'False'.... hit apply. that should fix your trouble of Sonar 'over compensating'.

Blogman

Thank you, thank you!!!  I have been getting so frustrated with this MIDI synchronization problem where recorded MIDI notes were always ~20ms early, and was having a hard time finding anything in forums about it.  Making this adjustment fixed my problem!  I'm using Cakewalk Sonar X1 Essential, with all latest patches.



EnableDeviceOutputLatencyCompensation=<0,1> (default = 1)
 
Does anyone know what the values mean , beside Sonar 'over compensating' can someone explain this setting ,
 
does it disconnect sonars asio reported latency : Output
 
0=? ( My guess is False
1=? ( my guess is True ) ( This is the default )
 
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