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2016/04/08 23:03:56
Dreamstation
I've been a cakewalk user for nearly 20 years (oh dear god I suddenly feel very, very old) - and I have updated with each new release, haven't missed one in all that time, and I have never felt a need to switch out or even look at another DAW.  But...
 
I have also recently incorporated the excellent Console 1 into me workflow, but I would love to see it work even more seamlessly with Sonar.  This week Softube announced, not just a Neve emulation for the Console 1, but also demonstrated a more integrated union between it and Presonus' Studio One.
 
https://youtu.be/5UKkOPKgkLE
 
I am literally now in the process of shopping around for a good deal on Studio One, and when I find one I will drop my Sonar subscription and that will be it.  I feel a little sad about it actually.
 
What I would like to know is this...do Cakewalk have any plans to work with the Softube guys the way Personus already have?  I'm prepared to stick around if so, but I can't look past what is currently offered by Presonus - this seamless mixing set-up between the hardware and DAW is something I've wanted for a long time.  It's a no-brainer for me.  I really want/need this to happen with Sonar.
 
Is this on the horizon?
2016/04/08 23:23:41
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
SONAR already integrates with Console 1. We worked with the softube developers on this integration awhile ago, its nothing new. Its even mentioned on their website here
Track names and numbers are transferred to their plugin via one of the newer VST3 interfaces. What specific integration are you missing in SONAR? 
2016/04/08 23:27:59
Dreamstation
Clearly you did not watch the video.
2016/04/08 23:30:25
backwoods
disengage...
2016/04/08 23:31:35
Drone7
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
SONAR already integrates with Console 1. We worked with the softube developers on this integration awhile ago, its nothing new. Its even mentioned on their website here
Track names and numbers are transferred to their plugin via one of the newer VST3 interfaces. What specific integration are you missing in SONAR? 




That's just basic compatibility with ease of use. The Op is talking about plugins that integrate seamlessly into Studio One similar to the way Pro-Channel has integrated plugins in Sonar. This was a new feature announced with the latest 3.2 update of Studio One. Steven Slate is getting onboard too.
2016/04/08 23:33:40
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I did watch it. Besides the presenter mentioning tight integration several times it wasn't clear what was meant by that. Solo mute etc do work in SONAR via Console 1. Can you describe what seamless integration means in this context? 
 
Softube makes great stuff. If there is something more to be done to integrate better than we do today we can certainly work with them and improve on the interop. 
2016/04/08 23:46:44
Drone7
Dreamstation
I've been a cakewalk user for nearly 20 years (oh dear god I suddenly feel very, very old) - and I have updated with each new release, haven't missed one in all that time, and I have never felt a need to switch out or even look at another DAW.  But...
 
 
I am literally now in the process of shopping around for a good deal on Studio One, and when I find one I will drop my Sonar subscription and that will be it.  I feel a little sad about it actually.
 



 
I can sell you my copy of Studio One 2.6.5 Professional for $149 if you want it. Then the upgrade price after that to Studio One 3.2 Professional will cost you another $149.
 
 
Cakewalk needs to update Sonar to included a brand-new rompler with 24bit uncompressed sounds, and replace all their current included softsynths with some decent ones. The Tasman AAS synth is a terrible low-quality softsynth, and the rest of the archaic sounds in Sonar are terrible too.
2016/04/09 00:03:02
backwoods
Pretty tough critique there Drone7 (in my opinion). Many people like Tassman products and if they don't they should take it up with Tassman. Apple includes the best rompler but it is still a distant placed competitor to Kontakt which I wthink most serious musicians would own.
 
Rather than spend money on VST instruments shouldnt Cakewalk (they make DAWs) just keep on keeping on the current tack-- improving stability, new features, bug fixes etc?
 
But I wouldn't be complaining if they threw in Omnisphere! (Apple did buy and monopolize Alchemy which was cruel to the rest of us but brilliant)
2016/04/09 01:46:24
Anderton
[Yawn] Our alt-prone friend is back again, having conversations with himself during a leisurely afternoon troll and doing his usual shilling for Studio One. 
 
Noel, don't waste your time. I highly doubt he/she/it will "describe what seamless integration means in this context." I looked at the video, and it didn't look significantly different than the integration Softube has with DAWs in general for both Mac and Windows. As Softube says, "Console 1 is not a DAW controller, or even a plug-in controller. It's a separate hardware/software mixer that works in tandem with your DAW." The whole point is to use their hardware for control.
2016/04/09 03:31:07
GIM Productions
Drone7
and the rest of the archaic sounds in Sonar are terrible too.



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