I have a Shuttle Pro V2, and I would like to use it with Sonar 8 PE. It has some "generic functions" that work with all applications to a limited extent. The biggest problem with the generic mode is that it only works when Sonar has the focus. I need a control surface that will drive Sonar, whether or not Sonar has focus.

I found the Tech Tip which is rather dated. It speaks of Sonar V2 as the newest version:

SONAR 2.x customers only

Also download and run the SONAR control surface plug-in from here: http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttle_downloads.htm.

Unfortunately that link is dead. In fact, it appears that Contour Design has deleted everything having to do with the Shuttle products. (which is odd, since they are still on sale at Sweetwater)

Does anybody have a copy of the Sonar control surface plug in file for the Contour Shuttle Pro V2?

Thanks,

Tim.

I have the Shuttle Pro V2. To me this is one of the biggest mistakes CW did - by co-promoting it to their users.
Mine is basically used a BIG Jog wheel. It has very limited functionality, there's not updates for it - and as you say, Contour Design basically have disowned it.

This is one of those situations where the marketing people go to the backroom deals and forget about the users, and it's the kind of thing I *really* dislike about marketing.

If the Shuttle Pro was a 20 or 30 dollar item, fine. But it was about 200 if I recall. And that shouldn't have ended up a big ashtray.

On the Contour Design site, notice the new "Medical Mouse" looks exactly like the Shuttle Pro V2? Sheesh.

However, that being said, you can use it for PLAY, STOP, REWIND, SHUFFLE/JOG, etc... and not much more, so I wouldn't consider it a control surface, but more of a HUGE mouse.

ORIGINAL: timg11

I have a Shuttle Pro V2, and I would like to use it with Sonar. It has some "generic functions" that work with all applications to a limited extent. The biggest problem with the generic mode is that it only works when Sonar has the focus. I need a control surface that will drive Sonar, whether or not Sonar has focus.

I found the Tech Tip which is rather dated. It speaks of Sonar V2 as the newest version:

SONAR 2.x customers only

Also download and run the SONAR control surface plug-in from here: http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttle_downloads.htm.

Unfortunately that link is dead. In fact, it appears that Contour Designs is disavowing all knowledge of having ever made the Shuttle products.

Does anybody have Sonar control surface plug in file for the Contour Shuttle Pro V2?

Thanks,

Tim.

I'm actually pretty happy with mine...though it isn't the V2...and I don't use the "newer" software that they came out with. The fact that the driver follows whatever app has the focus is kind of a bad news, good news thing. When you've got MS Word up to show the lyrics that you're trying to write and sing, it's a bit dicey...but I pop back and forth between SONAR and WaveLab a lot too. In that case, it's good that it pays attention to both apps.

When I need the control surface to stick with SONAR (and not follow the app focus), I'll use the TranzPort instead (being as how I have both)...but I end up using the Shuttle Pro 90% of the time...or more.

Contour's website had gone kinda old and creaky...but then, I went back recently and found that they had apparently disavowed all knowledge of the products and wouldn't even offer the old drivers. That's a bit disconcerting.

ORIGINAL: dantarbill
Contour's website had gone kinda old and creaky...but then, I went back recently and found that they had apparently disavowed all knowledge of the products and wouldn't even offer the old drivers. That's a bit disconcerting.

was it the old "legacy" trick some companies are fond of pulling? one company in my case won't get 1p off me for being like that. other companies are far better support wise.. and they get my custom..

The Shuttle isn't dead. Contour just released some new settings for it (although not for SONAR)...

* Contour Design Provides New Shuttle Settings
http://www.newtechreview....w/bloginfo.asp?ID=1122

from the NewTechReview web site...
http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/

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Scott

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I thought the v2 of the Shuttle was actually LESS configurable than the original.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread....got a quick question though.

The ShuttleXpress would be perfect for my needs except for one caveat: I read in an older thread where the jog resolution can only be set to measure. Has anyone been able to get it to jog by ticks or beats?

I have a v1 of the Shuttle pro, but under Windows 7 or Vista, the control surface plugin that originally came with it was excellent, as it did just what you said - worked when Sonar didn't have the focus.  Also, everything about it was configurable from within Sonar and the jog/shuttle would work at measure, beat, or tick resolution.  Now, the plugin for Sonar is completely un-configurable.  The buttons cannot be made to control the transport and whoever came up with the new button layout must not use Sonar.

So, I suffer with the Global settings, with the settings modified from the Sonar3Pro setting defaults.  I have the buttons as undo, set From and Thru, and then a line for the transport.  I have the btoom buttons set for turning on and off the metronome during play/record and navigate back and forward through markers.  Finally, the jog wheel goes forward and back by measures using keyboard keys at varying speeds depending on how far from center.  I wish there were a keybinding for back and forward by beat, as measure is too coarse.  I tried using the FF and RW, but they seemed to work in some sort of latch mode and unpredictable when assigned to the wheel.

I also have a BCF2000 and an Edirol PCR-800.  Both of these have transport controls.  The BCF has buttons for forward and reverse, which can be configured from the Mackie plugin to be beat or measure resolution, and the PCR has a knob by the transport controls that can be used for the same.  Both of these units work when Sonar doesn't have the focus because they are plugins within Sonar, not Global Windows apps.  Same goes for the Frontier Design Tranzport (now discontinued, but with Win7 drivers).

I tried to contact the original author of the Sonar plugin for the v1, and he wrote me back saying:

- if I recall correctly, the Shuttle SDK changed after I released my plugin and, as they were seemingly writing their own Sonar driver, I didn't update my code, so it's now incompatible

I don't know what Contour was thinking with the changes to v2.  It was perfect before and now it's something I am considering getting used to reaching to the left to control with the Edirol and freeing up that bit of desk space.  If the v1 plug worked, it would be perfect again, and it would be an indespensible tool.

I'm sure some crafty individual on this forum would be able to understand the SDK for this and make a new/better plugin, but I don't know if that person exists with the motivation to do so.

@superdan:  I don't know for sure, but I'd guess that the Xpress is going to have the same issues as any of the others.  If someone else here has found a way to get the wheel to move by beat and the buttons to be programmable at the same time (or even modified in the registry/ini files somewhere), those would be great steps in the right direction, but I've yet to find them or hear of anyone who has.

Hi All,

I realize this thread hasn't been updated in a while, but I wanted to see if Sonar users are still using the Shuttle products and if anyone is interested in utilizing the Shuttle SDK for Sonar support.

Thanks,

Terry Goyette
Shuttle Product Manager
Contour Design, Inc.

http://contourdesign.freeforums.org

terryg@contourdesign


Hi All,

I realize this thread hasn't been updated in a while, but I wanted to see if Sonar users are still using the Shuttle products and if anyone is interested in utilizing the Shuttle SDK for Sonar support.

Thanks,

Terry Goyette
Shuttle Product Manager
Contour Design, Inc.

http://contourdesign.freeforums.org/

 
Terry,
 
I still do have the V2 on my desktop along with my mouse.   As I said in my original post here a long time ago, I do use it mostly as a BIG _jog_ wheel, with an ocassional stop/play/rewind when my hand is already on it.
 
But I must stay I think it's a little strange that someone from Contour Design comes here after a long absence and disappearing act to test the waters.  There was hardly any real support when you were in bed with the Cakewalk marketing people, yet you want to come "harvest" Sonar users again?
 
I find that arrogant and opportunistic at best.
 
Make a good product and support it properly.   Wouldn't that be a novel idea?
 
The product itself was well made, and had a limited but useful purpose.  It cost almost 200 (or more) when I bought my V2.  As others pointed out, it had LESS functionality than the previous model.
 
While I try to be a constructive and positive person in life, I must say that I am actually laughing that you have the gaul to come here without even a slight apology for abandoning Sonar users, yet seemingly to harvest us again.
 
As far as I'm concerned, I would doubt I would ever purchase a product from your company again unless you made something that no one on the planet did and only if iit was inexpensive.
 
Since history generally repeats itself, I'm sure Contour Design would not hesitate to do just what it did before.  Hit and Run.
 
Sorry to be blunt, but I'm being honest and I think your company needs to hear this (as do others).   People are tired of being treated like guinea pigs.
 
Good luck - whatevever you're up to.