eph221
I don't understand, can you expand on that?

Actually, let me make matters much more easy for you.  All I am asking here is for you to listen to that tune I linked you to.  Just pretend that it's like any of my other tunes I create even though it's not.  Pretend that I am saying to you right now that this is an amazing, catchy tune that I, myself, have created.  From there, give your response to that tune.  If you report that it truly was an amazing, catchy tune, then this means that my tunes are nothing amazing and catchy and that I am just fooled into believing they are.  But if you report that it was nothing amazing and catchy, then this means that my tunes could be amazing and catchy and that I just need to find a way to convey them so that they truly become amazing and catchy to listeners. 
 
I am presenting that linked tune in the incomplete fashion I present my created tunes.  I am trying to figure out if the melodies I have going here with my tunes have the likelihood of being the amazing, catchy tunes I describe them to be and that I just need to complete them to make them so or if I am just delusional and they really are nothing great and catchy at all.  If everything I said to you is something you still cannot understand, then it is just too difficult for me to explain in such a way that others can understand.  But all I am asking here is, again, for you to listen to that tune and report whether the tune was something amazing and catchy or not. 

I don't know what to add to this conversation, but I do know that it's easier to start a song or composition than to finish it.  I sometimes suspect that greatness begins at the end of the song rather than the beginning.

Elements? Like in a court room?

I think, SMG....
that we ALL catch a bit of the "fire" when we're composing.
 
Right now, I have easily twice as much music theory and knowledge as I did 4 years ago - resulting from studying and practicing a lot.
 
BUT I feel like I actually managed to *lose* that spark that made my tunes simple, catchy, fun melodies because now my mind wants to tend towards music theory-based songwriting choices rather than trying to convey a mood or bring some emotion or thought-pattern forth from the listener. It's become more of a technical pursuit in writing things with the densest, jazziest chords and fullest instrumentations, rather than aiming for the simplicity than can come with a good set of chords and a quality melody with good lyrics.
I guess my point is that I feel like I personally am just on a small stop on the way to creating much greater stuff than what I could do 4 or 5 years ago. And just to think of where I might be able to end up in another 5 years of work in the same direction.
 
Not that my experience applies to what you're doing. I think if you're enjoying what you're doing, just keep truckin'. I personally don't know if I'm hearing "amazing", groundbreaking music being created, but I can definitely say that what you're making is you. That it's not necessarily likely someone is going to make the exact same melodic or harmonic choices as you, that no others will likely use the same synths/samples that you choose. Keep developing your style and production skills, don't necessarily settle on assuming that you've already reached the divine level of songwriting of the "masters"... there's always more to learn when it comes to music and sound! 

Dude. Write what music you want to write. If you write songs  from "pure emotion" then you may dispense with writing sixteen paragraphs explaining your process.
 
Everyone will have an opinion of your songs, it will all be very subjective, and you shouldn't really care much. Write songs to please yourself.
 
Do you listen to/appreciate any music outside the realm of video games?
 
Cheers,
- Tom 

davdud101
I think, SMG....
that we ALL catch a bit of the "fire" when we're composing.
 
Right now, I have easily twice as much music theory and knowledge as I did 4 years ago - resulting from studying and practicing a lot.
 
BUT I feel like I actually managed to *lose* that spark that made my tunes simple, catchy, fun melodies because now my mind wants to tend towards music theory-based songwriting choices rather than trying to convey a mood or bring some emotion or thought-pattern forth from the listener. It's become more of a technical pursuit in writing things with the densest, jazziest chords and fullest instrumentations, rather than aiming for the simplicity than can come with a good set of chords and a quality melody with good lyrics.
I guess my point is that I feel like I personally am just on a small stop on the way to creating much greater stuff than what I could do 4 or 5 years ago. And just to think of where I might be able to end up in another 5 years of work in the same direction.
 
Not that my experience applies to what you're doing. I think if you're enjoying what you're doing, just keep truckin'. I personally don't know if I'm hearing "amazing", groundbreaking music being created, but I can definitely say that what you're making is you. That it's not necessarily likely someone is going to make the exact same melodic or harmonic choices as you, that no others will likely use the same synths/samples that you choose. Keep developing your style and production skills, don't necessarily settle on assuming that you've already reached the divine level of songwriting of the "masters"... there's always more to learn when it comes to music and sound! 

emeraldsoul
Dude. Write what music you want to write. If you write songs  from "pure emotion" then you may dispense with writing sixteen paragraphs explaining your process.
 
Everyone will have an opinion of your songs, it will all be very subjective, and you shouldn't really care much. Write songs to please yourself.
 
Do you listen to/appreciate any music outside the realm of video games?
 
Cheers,
- Tom 

For me, I have never lost that spark.  I am inspired to create emotionally profound, catchy, and powerful tunes in my mind.  But, for whatever reason, these tunes I claim are catchy and amazing aren't at all.  That is why I have set up the premises and the conclusion in my previous post to figure out what is going on here.  Go ahead and read that post, listen to that tune I presented (which isn't my tune), and give your feedback.  My goal is to produce and share music that is catchy, profound, and powerful.  The emotion of music is something very important to me and it is vital that I produce music that isn't stale, lame, nothing catchy, and just not that good. 

'Catchy'.
 
Happy by Pharrell Williams is catchy.
 
'Profound'. 'Amazing'. 'Powerful'
 
Handel's Messiah. Vaughan-Williams' Lark Ascending. Pink Floyd's Dark Side of The Moon.
 

emeraldsoul
 
 
Do you listen to/appreciate any music outside the realm of video games?
 

Good question...

Alright, all I am asking is that others listen to this tune and report back to me whether this is a great and catchy tune or not.  Is it nothing great and nothing catchy like the rest of the tunes on my soundcloud account?
 
https://youtu.be/irkOc2J87vE

I think you mistake complexity for quality. Miles davDa played relatively uncomplicated music but he was a genius because he was a leader. Your work is derivative.