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2017/05/28 12:39:41
Leee
paulo
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Try inserting Ozone on 10 tracks and buses just to see the MP3 preview and see what it does to your performance :)




Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me Noel, but why would I want to preview the potential mp3 rendering of ten individual tracks and buses? 


You're missing the point of what Noel was saying.  Obviously, you wouldn't preview / insert the plugin on 10 individual tracks to preview the potential mp3 rendering.  The point is that Ozone would hog all the memory in that scenario, causing extreme latency, while the Adaptive Limiter would not.

I'm pretty sure you understood that to begin with.  No one is impressed with your wise-a$$ replies, talking down to people, or your constant negative comments about Cakewalk products.  If you don't contribute in a positive, constructive way, then there's no point in reading any of your posts (even the few that are honestly trying to be helpful).
2017/05/28 16:07:59
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Actually there is a use case for checking MP3 encoding on tracks or buses. MP3 tends to affect certain frequencies or instruments more noticeably. So having the ability to audition a drum bus or a track to see if the sizzle of the ride cymbal or the timbre of a piano has been compromised is very useful. Then you can play with the encoding to see at what point the problem goes away for that track or bus.
Having it in a low CPU plugin is a plus for sure.
2017/05/28 16:32:53
Soundwise
Surely it's a very useful tool. I particularly like histogram display and metering options. Thanks Bakers!
2017/05/28 16:57:44
bitflipper
paulo
Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me...



You guys are too hard on Paulo. The above admission proves he's both humble and honest.
2017/05/28 17:53:50
Sanderxpander
I have never minded shelling out for external plugins to fill out specific needs Sonar doesn't cover. But if, two years ago, Sonar had had everything it does today, I probably would've saved most of my money. Drum replacer, vocal sync, LP EQ/MB and now the adaptive limiter. Even the case for Melodyne can be made though I upgraded it. Splat has been good.
2017/05/28 18:31:31
John
bitflipper
paulo
Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me...



You guys are too hard on Paulo. The above admission proves he's both humble and honest.


That got me ROTFLMAO!
2017/05/28 20:22:19
Leee
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Actually there is a use case for checking MP3 encoding on tracks or buses. MP3 tends to affect certain frequencies or instruments more noticeably. So having the ability to audition a drum bus or a track to see if the sizzle of the ride cymbal or the timbre of a piano has been compromised is very useful. Then you can play with the encoding to see at what point the problem goes away for that track or bus.
Having it in a low CPU plugin is a plus for sure.


I stand corrected.  I probably would be too lazy to listen to how much MP3 artifacts are produced on each individual track.  I can hear from the master bus the general sounds that produce artifacts.
But it's nice to know I have that option with the new Adaptive Limiter!  And unless I missed it, I don't even think that Ozone 7 has a setting just to hear MP3 artifacts solo'd.  It's quite a handy tool, especially when you upload your music to various music sites (like SoundClick), who encodes your music to ridiculously low MP3 settings.
2017/05/29 18:56:58
Anderton
paulo
Anderton
paulo
Ozone says welcome to 2015.



So did you go to the iZotope forums when Ozone came out and say "Sonnox says welcome to 2011"? Oh wait - iZotope doesn't have a forum where people can post irrelevant comments on their products. Never mind.
 
Anyway, I think it will be highly educational for people who didn't spend $250 on Ozone or $400 on the Sonnox Pro-Codec to have a free way of finding out what the MP3 algorithm discards. Even 320k bps throws away a lot of the high-frequency transients.







 
If you're trying to make a point, it's lost on me other than if you're comparing yourself to a wind-up toy. Which come to think of it, makes sense.
2017/05/29 19:06:11
mudgel
Anderton
paulo
Anderton
paulo
Ozone says welcome to 2015.



So did you go to the iZotope forums when Ozone came out and say "Sonnox says welcome to 2011"? Oh wait - iZotope doesn't have a forum where people can post irrelevant comments on their products. Never mind.
 
Anyway, I think it will be highly educational for people who didn't spend $250 on Ozone or $400 on the Sonnox Pro-Codec to have a free way of finding out what the MP3 algorithm discards. Even 320k bps throws away a lot of the high-frequency transients.







 
If you're trying to make a point, it's lost on me other than if you're comparing yourself to a wind-up toy. Which come to think of it, makes sense.


Now that's funny.
2017/05/29 21:00:00
tonydude
This looks like a good addition to Sonar. 
 
I like iZotope Ozone a lot as well, but not everyone has Ozone (and it's expensive).
 
It's the sign of a good idea if a similar feature is implemented by several companies. So I'm pleased to see Cakewalk add this and I'll be using it.
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