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2017/05/26 04:36:32
rebel007
'sigh'. I apologise for dumping about my iLok issues in this forum. I'm still unhappy about the cost involved regarding a replacement and the way they go about it, but I realise this has nothing to do with Cakewalk and the way they operate their business.
Things do break down and require replacement, so it's bite the bullet and pay, if I want to use VocAlign, which I am looking forward to. Again, apologies to forum members and specifically to Alex for dumping on his thread.
2017/05/26 13:48:56
csjensen

 
musicroom
Can someone elaborate on quality difference if any, between Vocal Align and Vocal Sync?
Thanks,



 
 
 
 
2017/05/26 13:50:03
bitman
musicroom
Can someone elaborate on quality difference if any, between Vocal Align and Vocal Sync?
 
 
Thanks,




Sorta, I have in my possession a track from an internet singer who sings like Randy Travis which is what I needed for my current project. When the track came back, my wife and I were like, "Are you mental?" as yes, it sounds like Randy, but a drunken Randy with no sense of time and pitchy like you wouldn't believe!
 
So I went about to split n' stretch the vocal track to get it like the guide track I sent to him. After it was all said and done the resulting audio was robotic to say the least. So I tried Vocal Sync and it was way too far out of bounds to lock it together and rendering the result was a glitchy mess. The Vocalign with ARA integration showed up right at this time and I jumped on it, downloading the demo and gave it a shot at "Randy". It is not only able to rein him in, (except for a few really difficult phrases) but rendering it is pretty darn transparent.
 
Now this is definitely a wild case and not really fair to Vocal Sync with is designed to work with singers with a clue but this is what I have found.
 
V-Vocal for the pitchyness and by George, I think we have a track.
I thought about flying out to N. Carolina and standing over "Randy" saying "Again!" until he got it right.
He charged only 75.00 so I don't know, fixing it in the mix seemed more better, ya know?
 
2017/05/26 14:57:18
musicroom
Thanks for replying bitman.
 
I find I don't use Vocal Sync as much as I thought I would. Mixed results. I'm sitting on the fence on whether my needs justify getting Vocalign - and questions I have are around improved technology/ease of use.
 
 
 
2017/05/26 15:06:16
Anderton
The May eZine talks about the differences between the two. Bottom line is VocalSync is okay for basics, VocALign has better algorithms. I've had good results with VocalSync, and excellent results with VocALign.
2017/05/26 16:52:03
markoburrows
Alex Westner [Cakewalk]
From now until May 31st, we're offering an exclusive promotion in collaboration with Synchro Arts to give you 20% off VocALign Project 3 from the Cakewalk store.
 
For more info about VocALign and SONAR - please read more on our blog:
http://blog.cakewalk.com/cakewalk-and-synchro-arts-announce-vocalign-ara-integration-with-sonar/
 
Here's a great video demonstrating VocALign in action:
https://vimeo.com/212277140
 
BUY NOW!
 


Hi Alex,
 
Just a thought. I saw your advertisement in my e-mail and was interested, but I have splat (love the acronym) and my first thought was "what if they decide to include it as one of the monthly upgrade options in the future - that would be money I've spent when I didn't need to..." so I  took no action...
 
Now, I fully admit I'm probably foolish for doing so, but it maybe an idea in future to state in these announcements if you plan to include a new product, plug-in or doo-dah in a future monthly upgrade so the dumber amongst us (like me) don't assume that it may be included in a future update and leave our monies in our bank accounts...
 
Hope this helps
 
Best Regards
 
 
Marko
2017/05/26 17:35:12
Anderton
Marko, the more expensive the product, the less likely you'll ever see it bundled with SONAR. The full version of Addictive Drums was an exception, presumably because it's a platform for which people can buy expansion packs. Therefore it's in the best interests of the company to have it as many places as possible. That's not the case wit VocALign. 
 
Cakewalk already has a vocal alignment tool included. I realize anything's possible, but I'd bet money you'll never see VocaALign Project in a monthly update.
2017/05/26 19:11:01
markoburrows
Anderton
Marko, the more expensive the product, the less likely you'll ever see it bundled with SONAR. The full version of Addictive Drums was an exception, presumably because it's a platform for which people can buy expansion packs. Therefore it's in the best interests of the company to have it as many places as possible. That's not the case wit VocALign. 
 
Cakewalk already has a vocal alignment tool included. I realize anything's possible, but I'd bet money you'll never see VocaALign Project in a monthly update.


Thank you Craig,
 
You see. I told you it was a dumb thing to think!
 
But I stick to my point. Advertising is there to convince people to part with their money at the point of reading the advert. It's a call to action. the clue is in the name. I just thought Alex would like to know of any barrier I (and others like me - there are surely others like me ---- please...) have could, might, put in the way of buying what he is advertising.
 
Sure I'm dumb for not buying it and realising that high value stuff don't get given away...
 
But that's what dumb people do :-)
 
I just thought it was a helpful thing to point out.
 
But, thank you again for pointing out the logic in the situation.
 
Best Regards
 
 
Marko
2017/05/26 20:01:49
bitman
Never Mind.
 
2017/05/29 18:48:46
proudexile
Greetings!
 
Just purchased, installed and activated VocAlign for SONAR and am having absolutely no luck whatsoever.
After creating Region FX for the two tracks I wish to align, I end up with TWO instances of VocAlign - one for each track.  Neither the video demos nor the manual say anything about that.
 
I have made various attempts to get audio to align but there is no audible result.  Anyone else run into this?
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