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2017/04/30 15:27:08
Bob Currie [Cakewalk]
Hi Skyline,
 
Right, the Tab-To-Note (with audition) feature needs the first note to be selected.  If you have no selection, or there are multiple notes selected, it doesn't currently have a defined behavior for which note to start on (which may be improved in the the future).  For now, simply clicking on the first note gets things kicked off.  
 
~Bob
 
2017/04/30 15:47:39
Bob Currie [Cakewalk]
Hi Kamikaze,
 
There are some known issues with lingering colors in the new PRV when switching themes.  Opening and closing SONAR after the theme switch should take care of it for now.  We'll get it straightened out.
 
RE: the MIDI work - the whole team here is committed to making SONAR's MIDI experience the best there is.  I do use these new features every day in my project work, so I'll be frequenting the forums to get your thoughts and feedback.  Cheers!
 
~Bob
2017/04/30 16:07:08
rogeriodec
Hello Bob,
In versions prior to 2017.03, hotkeys A (show all tracks), H (hide all tracks), V (invert track selection) were quite used. I had even created a script with Autohotkey to show only the current track, something that there was not in Sonar, but I used it constantly, along with the other keys above.
These operations are now restricted to the mouse only.
Even the new "AutoLock" does not have the possibility of a keyboard shortcut.
I believe that repetitive operations should have support via the keyboard to facilitate the workflow.
Is there any chance these functions will have shortcut keys again?
 
2017/04/30 16:49:41
WallyG
Bob,
 
I posted this on the regular forum, but I'm hoping I can catch your eye.
 
The tools and features of the new PRV are fantastic. Great job bakers!
 
I work with some softsynths (i.e. Steel Guitar) that has 6 or more CCs. While I realize you can select either showing one CC lane or multiple lanes, there are some cases where I would like to have 2 out of the 6 showing if the timing of one curve has to match up with the other. If I display multiple controllers, I lose resolution compared to displaying just 2 controllers. I can use the - icon to eliminate the ones I don't what to see, but it's a pain (more work)  to the bring them back up again.
 
I would be nice if when displaying multiple controllers, you could click on one controller lane, and then CTRL click on the second desired lane (or even a third lane), to show only the lanes you want to work on. This would also eliminate the need to go to a menu to select show multiple or single controllers.
 
This is somewhat like how the automation lanes in the track view work.
 
Walt


 
 
2017/04/30 18:35:25
DayDay72
When working on a project for long periods of time, I often lose the ability to 'split' clips or tracks at the point of my choosing (whether or not I use the split tool, or right-click).
When I right click to split, no GUI shows up so that I can make my preferences
When I use the split tool, it does not split on my selection.
I have to re-start the project to split my clips/tracks....nuisance!!
2017/04/30 20:06:56
MarioD
WallyG
Bob,
 
I posted this on the regular forum, but I'm hoping I can catch your eye.
 
The tools and features of the new PRV are fantastic. Great job bakers!

I work with some softsynths (i.e. Steel Guitar) that has 6 or more CCs. While I realize you can select either showing one CC lane or multiple lanes, there are some cases where I would like to have 2 out of the 6 showing if the timing of one curve has to match up with the other. If I display multiple controllers, I lose resolution compared to displaying just 2 controllers. I can use the - icon to eliminate the ones I don't what to see, but it's a pain (more work)  to the bring them back up again.

I would be nice if when displaying multiple controllers, you could click on one controller lane, and then CTRL click on the second desired lane (or even a third lane), to show only the lanes you want to work on. This would also eliminate the need to go to a menu to select show multiple or single controllers.

This is somewhat like how the automation lanes in the track view work.

Walt


 
 





I agree.  On occasion I also like to see more than one controller shown. Control click is the perfect solution IMHO.
2017/04/30 21:01:38
Bob Currie [Cakewalk]
WallyG and Rogeriodec - great ideas! We're almost certainly not done in controller pane. Keep the feedback coming and stay tuned. Thanks!
~Bob
2017/04/30 21:15:09
AllanH
Regarding the PRV controller pane.
I use automation lanes all the time to manage CC1 (dynamics), CC2 (vibrato), and CC11 (expression). Some VIs use additional CCs.
 
With the improved PRV controller lane, the issues of “unification” comes up again. The editing for automation lanes is in some ways far more elegant than the PRV controller lanes, but also harder to “edit”. Automation is easy to “record” after the midi has been recorded – this is a huge plus.
 
Here’s what I’d like:
  • Ability to move controller panes to automation lanes and back
  • Display of multiple controller panes in the PRV
  • Ability to “play in” controller information in the PRV similar to automation without affecting the notes.
  • Some sort of long-term “best practices” that simplifies and/or unifies the various uses of CC messages.
 
If we had a fully functional PRV for controller information, I'm not sure I'd use the track view nearly as much.
 
Edited for clarity.
2017/05/01 08:41:42
Skyline_UK
DayDay72
When working on a project for long periods of time, I often lose the ability to 'split' clips or tracks at the point of my choosing (whether or not I use the split tool, or right-click).
When I right click to split, no GUI shows up so that I can make my preferences
When I use the split tool, it does not split on my selection.
I have to re-start the project to split my clips/tracks....nuisance!!


I get that occasionally!  I've never raised it because it doesn't happen very often and I can't replicate it at will. But you are not alone!  With me it predates the last couple of updates, but when it came into play I don't know. 
2017/05/01 16:11:05
Anderton
I skipped the 2017.03 update because I expected the 2017.04 update to have some PRV tweaks. Now that I've had a chance to play with it, I think the improvements compared to the old version are pretty huge. I particularly like some of the less-obvious features, like being able to open with only the selected tracks filtered. 
 
It took me a while to "crack the code" about selection/de-selection/auto lock in the Track Pane but once I figured it out, it made sense. What threw me the most was when I de-selected a track because it also acquired the focus in the process, so it didn't appear to de-select. Then I realized that as soon as put the focus on another track, the de-selected track went away. While not intuitive, it was logical in the sense that if you de-selected a track, the odds are pretty much 100% you're going to select, or put the focus on, a different track.
 
Overall I think the PRV re-designs are going in a really great direction (and implementing some of the suggestions for improvements will take it even further). It's encouraging to see this kind of love given to recording and editing based on everyone's favorite decades-old spec! Good job.
 
 
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