Pbognar,

Don't know if the R16 setup is the same as the R24 but from what I have read, I think it is.  Try my suggestions and see if it works for you.

Rimshot


Pbognar,

Don't know if the R16 setup is the same as the R24 but from what I have read, I think it is.  Try my suggestions and see if it works for you.

There lies the rub - I have a line on a used one for $275.  BUT - I have a friend who would lend me his to try out.


I will report back.

I think what you need to do, as rimshot said, is continue to build the project in X1, using the R24 in interface mode.  You indicated you copied the files from X1 to the R24, which it doesn't seem like you need to do.  You indicated you tried to use the R24 in interface mode but it didn't work.  As Rimshot said definitely make sure you  have installed the latest ASIO drivers, I've got 1.3 installed and they work fine.  Also, make sure you power on the R24, ensure the usb cable is plugged in and you've selected interface mode on the R24, BEFORE you start Sonar.  It will not work if you do it the other way around.  You'll need to restart Sonar or maybe even reboot your computer if you don't get that order right.
Then go into the audio manager and make sure the R24 asio is selected.  I must confess right now I haven't used Sonar in months since switching to Reaper, or I'd be able to remember that, but the audio is in the preferences somewhere.  Just make sure the R24 is selected, you should not have any issues.

Or, you could, copy all the wavs over after putting the R24 in reader mode, but make sure you've initialized the SD card properly.  Create the project you want to contain the wav files on the R24 FIRST.  Then go into SD reader mode, and you'll see SD card as a drive in windows.  You should see the path Zoom_r24\Project\<name>\Audio.  Drag your files there.  Make sure your wav format you've set the project for, either 44/16 or 44/24, matches the media you're dragging into the R24 project folder.  You'd then go back to the R24 in standalone mode, make sure your tempo matches your original project, then select the files you want to associate to the tracks using the "track" button, the "file".  You'll browse for the file, and you can audition them before selection by pressing the play button.

Of course I still think at this point it would probably be easier to continue the project in X1 since it is already there.

Oh and I should add that you really should take the time to go through the pretty well written R24 manual and get your head around it's capabilities.  It really is a nice unit to get ideas down on, and even produce a full project if you want.  There are a couple bugs with punch in on it, which I am now helping beta test the next firmware release.  It seems very stable now, and I love using it to create loops to use the sequencer, really a efficient way to get ideas down IMO.  So I would suggest taking the time to really get familiar with it.

Hope this helps

Thanks you guys very much for your help.  I downloaded the latest R24 drivers last night, and they are version 1.5.  I will try to uninstall them (as suggested on their site & here), and then install the new onces, and try to connect as you guys have suggested.  Will report back after I see what happens.
Thanks again!

Ok, I uninstalled the old drivers and installed the new 1.5 R24 drivers.  Put the R24 in USB mode as directed and hooked up to computer... which saw the new hardware and installed it.  I then started Sonar X1 Producer, and loaded up the tracks from one of the tunes in our recording project.  So far, all good.
Next, I went into
After switching to ASIO mode, I got an error window titled "Missing Audio Outputs".  The messages reads as follows:  The following audio output devices used by this project are not available.  You may reassign them to any other available device, or click OK to accept the default assignments below.  Click CANCEL to retain the original output assignment. (These outputs will remain silent until reassigned to an available output)
Below that is a title and two sets of categories... the title is "Reassign missing Audio Output Devices"
In the left column under Missing Devices, my sound card is listed as "SB X-Fi Audio [CF00] 1/2", and under Available Devices, it says "Creative ASIO Front L/R
I clicked OK to assign to the latter.  Hope I did the right thing.  I noticed that in the Driver Settings under Preferences, I now see under Playback Timing Master - "1: Creative ASIO Front L/R" and under Record Timing Master - "1: Creative ASIO Windows Record L".  The audio Driver Bit Depth, which was 24, is now grayed out, so I'm thinking perhaps I did something wrong.

As a side note, every time I try to select ASIO mode, my R24 drivers get replaced by my SB X Fi drivers and the R24 drivers are grayed out and unchecked.  However, in MME or in WDM mode, both sets of drivers are enabled and checked under devices.  Additionally, under Driver Settings, the Playback Timing Master and Record Timing Master both show the SB X-Fi Audio, but also have the R24 listed as a choice, when MME or WDM modes are selected.  However, under ASIO, only the SB X-Fi Audio in available.  What am I doing wrong guys, and why is my setup so contrary to what your experiences are?  Oh, I should mention that 24 bit, 48kHz is again operable under the WDM and MME modes.

Ok, I got into USB sync and noticed the default sample rate changed on the R24 from 44.1 to 48, which is, I assume, some progress.  My recording project wav files are 24 bit & 48kHz and are all loaded into Sonar X1.
I can now play all, or solo the individual tracks, which I see led levels for on the Master channel on the R24.  I added a new audio track in Sonar, in the Track 1 slot, and hooked up a Shure SM57 to the corresponding track on the R24.  I set the R24 Audio Interface to REC, and also set Track 1 to record in Sonar, and clicked on the Record button in the transport, and tried to lay down some random chatter just to see if I was getting any signal through to Sonar.  Though it appeared to work, nothing was actually recorded, but an empty sine wav box did appear.  I feel like I'm getting closer, but still no cigar.  Man, do I feel lame.  Who knew it would be so difficult to get this thing working.  I still have nightmares over the 1 Presonus Firepod & the 2 Presonus Firestudio Projects that I never could get to work, after hundreds of dollars of investment in them.  What a disappointment.  I'm hoping to fare much better this time around.
Color me "Fingers Crossed".

After you put the R24 in USB Sync mode, it should be set for a sample rate of 44.1khz.  Launch X1 and your under Preferences, your Device should be the R24.  Your Driver Settings for playback and record should point to the R24.  Playback and recording shuold be set to ASIO. 

Then pick an audio track and at the Input, select one of the channels of the R24.  I you are using the first channel on the R24 with a microphone, you would select the first Left Zoom R24 item at the top of the list.  The R24 at this point does not have to be in record mode with the light on as you will be recordiing in X1. 

Hey Rimshot... thanks for your help first off!

Ok, here's what's happening.  When first setting the R24 to USB Audio Interface (Sync) mode, it IS set for 44.1kHz.  However, my project is set to 48kHz 24 bit, so once I start Sonar X1, the R24 then displays 48kHz in the display window.

Ok, next, I have some confusion over what goes where....

In the Preferences menu, under AUDIO... I have three sub-menus... Devices... Driver Settings... & Playback and Recording.

Under DEVICES... I show different option, depending on what is selected under Playback and Recording.  When MME (32 bit) is selected for DRIVER MODE, I have both the R24 & the Creative SB drivers listed.  If I check the latter only, I can hear the other tracks, AND record on Track 1 thru the R24, however, the sound is distorted and there is a delay between the time I speak, and the time I hear what I said, in the headphones.  However, I spoke in time to the beat, and in playing back later, it appears that the timing is correct in the playback... just not when I'm recording.  I'm thinkin' that's going to make it tough, if the bass player cannot hear his notes in the correct timing with the music as he records.

If I check both the R24 AND the Creative SB drivers under DEVICES, then I have playback and an active mic channel, but no sound is recorded, AND no delay either... simultaneous sound from the mic, but no led response, and nothing records.

When setting the DRIVER MODE (under Playback and Recording) to ASIO, all the drivers for the R24 are grayed out, and unchecked, and only the Creative ASIO drivers can be chosen.  The R24 drivers are present in the list, but cannot be selected when the DRIVER MODE is set to ASIO.

When I set the DRIVER mode to WDM and selected the R24 & Creative SB drivers all around, the pre-recorded tracks in Sonar would play, but with lots of crackle, and the audio was slowed down drastically.  Then I unselected the Creative SB drivers, the just selected the R24 drivers, Sonar X1 crashed (2nd time it has done so).

So, not sure what the next move is.  Know anything about ASIO4ALL?  Don't know anything about it... just noticed it in a search for answers about ASIO in my browser.

Thanks again for your help!



However, when set to

Hi,
Completely disable the SB driver from your system.  Launch X1 and start a new project at 44.1 KHZ.  Select the R24 drivers and see if you can record one audio track without a problem.  Here's a link to the R24 guide if you don't already have it:

R24 User Manual