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2018/02/12 11:00:05
SupaReels Music
Vilovilo :- Thanks for your input, if I could play guitar like you I think I would try to 'cut down' the mix ... I think the simple approach may work and I'll try it, many thanks for your time and listening Olivier
2018/02/13 05:07:34
emeraldsoul
Ok good song first off. I got some dire straits/knopfler vibes. Listen to how his "fade to black" is mixed. It works because it's sparse.
 
Try your mix with the harpsichord on mute. And lower guitar volumes by 1 e.g. at least. Both those things are masking the vocal. I would not boost that vocal, just drop the competition 1 e.g. at least.
 
It's asking a lot of that tiny tambourine to keep up as a rhythm section. You clearly are going sparse when it comes to drums! But not a lot of songs make it with no bass, no drums , just guitars and harpsichord.
 
Cheers mate, cool tune!
-Tom
2018/02/13 10:11:46
SupaReels Music
Thanks Tom ... Fade to black was a real inspiration thanks for the advice … I keep changing this song with every comment made! LOL but I think I'll try a new approach now … (like learning the guitar) Thanks again for listening
2018/02/14 03:41:35
emeraldsoul
ooops!  "db" got autocorrected to "e.g." (of course it did!)   my bad.
2018/02/17 04:58:05
Wayfarer
I like the song, but I'm not crazy about the instrumentation used. I would certainly drop the harpsichord and do more of a Debussy thing with some sparse piano and a very warm reverb room like so:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjllL-MP0U
 
I say that because your voice is a bit thin (not bad--just thin), so you need something a little more lush to fill some space, and a harpsichord is pretty much the opposite of lush.
 
Oh well, just an opinion. It's fine the way it is honestly.
2018/02/17 05:51:57
eph221
I have to ask what is the purpose of the presentation?.  It's a beautiful song, lyrics and Melody a married to eachoeach well. If it's for a demo, there's nothing really need done. I would put a piano on the harpsichord as well. Also I might make the vocals a little wetter. It's really gorgeous and sad! :(. There were some ghostly rhythmic fumbles here and there that need fixed if it's for public consumption.)
2018/02/17 12:19:03
SupaReels Music
Wayfarer
Many thanks for listening. The youtube link was particularly helpful, although I feel it's a bit above my 'pay grade' to play like that lol, however, that said with the other guys input esp Fade to black I think I'll rework it, thanks and for what it's worth I agree with your observations.
 
eph221
Thanks David for listening, and to answer your question of why the presentation, it was to discover what better musicians would do in their approach to this song. I listen to the stuff here and wonder how arrangements are made. For my part I am a frustrated songwriter because I can't play what I hear in my head so I arrive at at facsimile that I can live with, so no, it's not a demo only a song that needs a little help.
2018/02/17 17:48:48
eph221
The best advice anyone gave me viz *hows arrangements are made* is to learn an instrument really well.  This forces you to listen carefully and under a microscope. The better composers know many instruments and the best composers know many instruments really well.  Studying compositions in detail isn't as effective as the instrument approach I don't think.  (or I should say studying compositions without the con-text of an instrument isn't as effective.)
2018/02/18 17:06:45
SupaReels Music
Well, I have tried to take on board all the advice and this is the result https://soundcloud.com/us...ey-2nd-version/s-Punrg
2018/02/18 17:13:18
Wayfarer
Oh my gosh. That is the best turn-around of a song I've ever witnessed. Just amazing what you've done with it. Bravo!
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