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  • MOTU AVB interfaces - new driver available
2017/03/03 14:42:51
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
v4.0+72091 from March 1, 2017 now available
 
Download @ http://motu.com/avb/index.html
 
FYI, I have been using intermediate beta version v71666 for 2 months and it contained some properly working improvements compared to v71418 from Nov 2016
 
 
MOTU AVB Installer v4.0+72091 (Release Date 2017-03-01)
  • Added a workaround for PCI USB host controller cards with poor timing.
  • Improved the audio engine timers.
  • Improved Discovery app performance.
  • Fixed an issue where sample rate changes could cause a stop error.
  • Fixed an issue where unplugging UltraLite AVB could cause a stop error.
  • Fixed an issue that prevented sample rate changes from Presonus Studio One and Pro Tools.
  • Fixed an installer issue in 32-bit environment.
  • Pro Audio Driver Read Me for all MOTU AVB interfaces
MOTU AVB Installer v4.0+71418 (Release Date 2016-11-01)
  • Fixes an intermittent issue where a device fails to get detected upon restarting the computer.
  • Pro Audio Driver Read Me for all MOTU AVB interfaces
2017/03/05 07:51:48
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Performance has been further optimized - with version v4.0+72091 I can push buffers even lower to 64 samples + 32 saftey offset (@96kHz). Sonar now reports 2.0ms RTL; when adding the 82 samples (not reported offset determined from loopback) this gives 2.85ms true RTL at standard USB 2.0 port
 
Divide numbers by 2 for 44.1 kHz ... 32 samples + 16 host safety gets you similar performance ...
2017/03/05 13:34:23
dwardzala
Were you one of the ones that had initial issues with the Motu AVB?  I followed that thread very closely as this interface is on my short list.  What is keeping it from the top is the potential driver issues.
2017/03/05 19:29:26
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
dwardzala
Were you one of the ones that had initial issues with the Motu AVB?  I followed that thread very closely as this interface is on my short list.  What is keeping it from the top is the potential driver issues.


Yeah. That was me. And as a result to my issues MOTU provided me with a beta driver which pretty much solved all the issues. Now the latest driver seems to outperform the beta I had meanwhile...

The AVB system itself is fantastic. Works like charm and IO and sound quality is excellent. In terms of using it on Windows I might have hit the last little bit of the "earlier adopter phase" as there have been 4 official driver updates since last August ... but they seem to be very determined to also provide top performance on Windows.
2017/03/05 20:16:41
jbraner
Thanks for the heads up Rob - I'll give it a try.
2017/03/05 22:53:13
dwardzala
Rob, thanks for the info.  I think this just went back to the top of my list.
2017/03/06 02:50:56
steveo42
I've been using this driver for about 2 weeks after MOTU sent it to me to test. I was having highly intermittent clicks using heavy hitter VSTi like Ivory, balls to walls, all options on. Would happen after a minute or so of playing. Didn't have to be recording, just playing would do it. Drove me crazy. Buffer/Safety buffer size didn't matter until I went to something like 256 which of course made playing a VSTi impossible due to the latency.. Samplitude would report "Lost ASIO Buffer" when I got the clicks. If I was recording, it usually wasn't printed but sometimes it was. On playback sometimes it happened at the same time in the recording, other times it didn't. That's what was driving me crazy. It was all over the place. My gut feeling was the MOTU was losing sync after some period of time because these clicks never happened early on in playing or recording. My system is highly optimized but even so I tried all kinds of additional "stuff"... Even dragged out the ancient MAudio Delta 66 which had no problems at all. BTW the MOTU had problems with 2 different System boards. An Asus and a Gigabyte. Same symptom. Finally filed a techlink with MOTU and they sent me the driver.
Bingo.
All fixed.
I'm running 64ms with 16 safety buffer @48k and I can literally load up Ivory or Ravenscroft, turn on everything to the max, hit the sustain pedal and do glissandos for hours without a click or a pop.
I could not do that with the previous driver although loading it down with audio tracks and FX didn't seem to provoke anything. Just VSTi aggravated it for some reason.
LatencyMon barely registered, even with the older driver.
Processlasso showed nothing unusual.
I was just about to sell the unit.
 
Reaper and Studio One V3 latency is 1.6ms in and 1.6ms out for 3.2ms RTL......
That is amazing performance....
 
I have a MOTU Ulatralite AVB.
P.S. It is all about the driver and the company that makes the unit. An interface with great sounding boutique pre-amps, or a gazillion features is nothing but a brick if the drivers are not up to the task. Granted, not everyone is ITB and many who are recording real instruments using the direct monitoring features that most interfaces offer, have far less to worry about concerning RTL and tight drivers but even still, support matters. Honestly if someone asked me about MOTU and Windows 3 years ago I would have said, MOTU is a MAC oriented company. And from my perspective that was true. Not anymore. They are laser focused on Windows which is a good thing. 
Just my 2 cents.
 
 
2017/03/06 08:41:26
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
steveo42
I've been using this driver for about 2 weeks after MOTU sent it to me to test. I was having highly intermittent clicks using heavy hitter VSTi like Ivory, balls to walls, all options on. [...] If I was recording, it usually wasn't printed but sometimes it was. On playback sometimes it happened at the same time in the recording, other times it didn't. That's what was driving me crazy. [...]
 
Bingo.
All fixed.

 
thanks for sharing since you got a 2 weeks head start ;-)
glad it is all solved, especially as it partly resembles my experience from last fall
 
steveo42
Reaper and Studio One V3 latency is 1.6ms in and 1.6ms out for 3.2ms RTL......
That is amazing performance....



that's also the sweet spot here
2017/03/06 18:52:47
jbraner
These drivers seem to work fine here. I still get crackles in a busy project when I go to 64 samples (64 or 48 offset), but it doesn't freak out like it used to. ;-)
 
setting at 128 (offset 48) still works fine for me and gives me 8 ms RTL @ 44.1 KHz. This is perfectly useable.
 
2017/03/07 21:45:05
steveo42
I know this sounds crazy but have you tried a LOWER safety buffer?
People on GS have been reporting that 64/16 actually works better than 64/64+
Also noted is there seems to be no rhyme or reason to this.
This was with the last released driver from 11/1 so maybe things are different with the latest, but it's worth a try.
 
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