Hello,
 
compared to previous Sonar versions, I saw that there is no a "rebuild layers" option in X2.
 
I used a lot, in particular when recording takes (I usually need 2 lanes, not a lot of lanes.... and after recording I like to "reorder" everything without having a lot of lanes).
 
Does not people think that a rebuild layers option should be useful???
 
Tks,
 
Giorgio

I'm all for a rebuild option but not how it was previously implimented. It seemed to me to be a "rearrange into some random order" feature to me.

It certainly wasn't the order they were recorded in, IIRC it was actually based on clip length or something equally irrelevant (to me).

I think a re-ordering feature with some sort of user control and options would be great.

You can drag the lanes around to rearrange them however you please. Between that and the fact you can delete any you don't need and actually drag clips between lanes, I think we can already do everything we need - can't we?

#1 for rebuild and remove empty lanes/layers...laners ;). I really had the hang of it in X1. Great option, bouncing multiple clips and than just remove the empty layers. Also the clip envelopes are kind of confusing. After editing, clicking on "clips" some of them turn into ghosted data like expected, some stay active (colored). Only if I close Lanes and click on "clips" in the track header the still active ones become ghosted. I don't see a clear concept here...beats me... 

I'm still trying to figure out how to combine and/or replace using take lanes. I've only used it a couple of times but haven't had much luck figuring it out. I've looked at various videos on X2 and they talk about MIDI take lanes but even those are not clear. Everything I do is "analog" not MIDI.

I use rebuild a lot as well.  Take lanes replacing layers is looking more and more like a deal breaker for me and X2.

Rebuild Layers was a complete kludge to get around the deficiencies of layers. For a start, it was pretty random itself as to how it repositioned clips. I used it a lot in 8.5.3, but I think in X2, with Take Lanes, the whole problem goes away.

Yes, you'll have to change your way of working slightly, but in my opinion, we'll be better off.

I know people told me similar things about X1, and I basically said, "no way, don't tell me to change my process, I'm sticking with 8.5.3, then", so I know this is a very subjective thing. You're certainly within your rights to call this a deal-breaker and not upgrade.

Noisy Neighbour


#1 for rebuild and remove empty lanes/layers...laners ;). I really had the hang of it in X1. Great option, bouncing multiple clips and than just remove the empty layers. Also the clip envelopes are kind of confusing. After editing, clicking on "clips" some of them turn into ghosted data like expected, some stay active (colored). Only if I close Lanes and click on "clips" in the track header the still active ones become ghosted. I don't see a clear concept here...beats me... 

Me too! I've been working with those tools regularly since we got 'em and tho I frequently had to make some adjustments due to it's strange priorities, it still saved me a lot more time than it cost me...

On to the feature request to plea...

http://www.cakewalk.com/S.port/FeatureRequest.aspx

...anybody else?

Keni

I would love someone who works in audio material (not midi clips, but more continuous audio material such as multi-miced drums, guitar cabs, etc) to give a video tutorial on how to efficiently use track-lanes. I tried, but it seemed like a hassle.

fooman


I would love someone who works in audio material (not midi clips, but more continuous audio material such as multi-miced drums, guitar cabs, etc) to give a video tutorial on how to efficiently use track-lanes. I tried, but it seemed like a hassle.

What exactly do you want to know? If you are talking about comping there is a chapter on that in my X2 video, although on a single audio track the only difference between that and a multi tracked comp is the clips are clip grouped for multi track editing. Once grouped, editing one group member affects them all so it really wouldn't look any different even if the demonstration was changed, other than it'd be zoomed out to show multiple tracks, the edit is still done on only one track though.
 
There's also a similar video on my youtube page and although that is using layers in principal there is no difference in the method, obviously you'll see the old solo and mute buttons rather than the new ones though. The tools and method are the same.
 
That video is HERE.
 
Again that is using a single track but I use exactly the same method for multi tracks, usually on multi Mic'd acoustic guitar. Again the clips are clip grouped which is usually set up at the recording stage but can just as easily be sorted out after recording.
 
HTH