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  • Upsampling Addictive Drums 2
2016/10/08 14:09:37
sausy1981
Hi guys, do you think there are benefits to upsampling Addictive Drums 2 before bouncing to audio? I record at 44.1
Cheers
2016/10/08 15:30:44
Klaus
Samples don't benefit from upsampling, because you would only change the sample rate of already recorded material which doesn't alter the sound (well, it shouldn't, ideally).
 
So, if Addictive Drums 2 uses samples - I think it does - then the only benefit you could gain from Upsampling would be if you use internal effects of Addictive Drums 2 like reverb, delay, etc. on the drumkit.
 
 
2016/10/08 18:38:28
sausy1981
Cheers man. Just what I needed to know
2016/10/08 21:12:14
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Klaus
Samples don't benefit from upsampling, because you would only change the sample rate of already recorded material which doesn't alter the sound (well, it shouldn't, ideally).
 
So, if Addictive Drums 2 uses samples - I think it does - then the only benefit you could gain from Upsampling would be if you use internal effects of Addictive Drums 2 like reverb, delay, etc. on the drumkit.
 
 



I don't know if AD would benefit but that argument is not necessarily true. If the samples used were recorded at a higher sampling rate than the project sample rate, and the downsampling used by the synth is not high quality then you may still benefit from upsampling in SONAR. This is indeed why some synths sound different when upsampled.
 
2016/10/09 06:08:41
sausy1981
That's interesting, I would suspect the samples were recorded at a higher sample rate than 44.1, I must try and get that info...
2016/10/09 08:56:23
bitflipper
Out of curiosity I went looking for that information myself, but was unable to find out AD's sample rate. I'm guessing Noel doesn't know, either. Obviously, it's a conspiracy.
 
However, I'd bet that it's 44.1 KHz, given the relatively small size of the libraries (1.0 to 1.5 GB) and the fact that sample rate is not mentioned in their advertising (vendors who offer high SR samples usually brag about it).
 
 
2016/10/09 09:17:32
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
My guess is that they would be sampled at 48K. 
2016/10/09 16:03:14
sausy1981
I couldnt find a definitive answer either as to what sample rate they were recorded at. I will try and upsample ad2 in a project and have a listen and then not up sample and have a listen and see if I can hear a difference. I dont really trust my ears in that situation though as I could suffer from placebo....
2016/10/09 16:08:19
KyRo
sausy1981
I couldnt find a definitive answer either as to what sample rate they were recorded at. I will try and upsample ad2 in a project and have a listen and then not up sample and have a listen and see if I can hear a difference. I dont really trust my ears in that situation though as I could suffer from placebo....

 
Have someone else operate the controls for you ;)
2016/10/10 12:17:04
Klaus
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Klaus
Samples don't benefit from upsampling, because you would only change the sample rate of already recorded material which doesn't alter the sound (well, it shouldn't, ideally).
 
So, if Addictive Drums 2 uses samples - I think it does - then the only benefit you could gain from Upsampling would be if you use internal effects of Addictive Drums 2 like reverb, delay, etc. on the drumkit.
 
 



I don't know if AD would benefit but that argument is not necessarily true. If the samples used were recorded at a higher sampling rate than the project sample rate, and the downsampling used by the synth is not high quality then you may still benefit from upsampling in SONAR. This is indeed why some synths sound different when upsampled.
 



I stand corrected.
 
And sorry, sausy, for my misleading answer.
 
Best,
Klaus
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