• SONAR
  • Entire Mix - Not exactly?
2017/02/13 10:29:02
brconflict
"If you don’t select anything, everything is selected" is written into the manual for exporting the Entire Mix of a project. That's one of the most frustrating things I've run into with Sonar.

Is it too much to ask that Cakewalk add "As Selected" to the export options vs. using Entire Mix to export only selected clips(s)/track(s)? It's totally not intuitive, as is.

See, the problem is, that almost everyone selects a track or clip, etc. every time they edit. When this happens, the user must do Ctrl+Shift+A to deliberately unselect the clip(s) and track(s) to export the Entire Mix or only the selected clip(s)/track(s) are unexpectedly exported. That's an extra step, which is not intuitive to the initiated new users, who need a great first impression. They don't know to do this without reading that fine print in the manual.

I've requested this some time ago, and it's still a thing, so I do want to try a different venue in the hopes this gets attention.

Thanks in advance!!
2017/02/14 10:36:21
dlion16
I ctrl-A the track view before export...
2017/02/14 10:54:49
brconflict
dlion16
I ctrl-A the track view before export...


Yeah, I mentioned the extra step above, although slightly opposite in nature. It's the extra step newbies won't know or intuitively think needs to be done, and a true annoyance for someone like me, who still doesn't understand the point of that relatively hidden feature superseding the obvious nature of what Entire Mix means.
2017/02/14 11:14:47
Sanderxpander
It's powerful but definitely confusing. I don't think I've ever used the selection to define exports (except for song length) because it's too easy to mess up. I select all and use mute/solo instead.
2017/02/14 13:13:08
rcklln
I tap numpad 5 (num lock off) - another shortcut to select none - before I select anything to delete, export, etc. If anything is selected prior to a select all, only a portion will end up getting selected.
2017/02/14 16:53:20
jpetersen
They put in the Add Track button but really, this dialog is in way more need of a cleanup.
Every time I export I'm just not sure if what I got is what I wanted.
2017/02/14 17:03:07
John
The best way to export a mix is making sure all tracks eventually route through the Master buss and select it when you export.  Obviously sub buses need to route to the master buss too. In a sense this a "what you hear" sort of export.
 
A good way to import audio is drag it from the Browser into the header area in an empty spot. 
2017/02/14 17:13:54
bitflipper
"Select none to select all" is actually part of the Windows standard. You don't explicitly select the text in a Word document, for example, to print it or to change the font. Unless, of course, you want to print/affect only a portion of it.
2017/02/14 17:23:19
Sanderxpander
I probably have an older version of Word but if I don't select anything, nothing changes when I change the font. I think it would be nice if there were an option in the export dialog to use "follow selection" or "ignore selection". I could opt for the latter and never have to worry again.
2017/02/14 19:25:18
brconflict
My point is this: What does the phrase Entire Mix mean to you? And when you want a mix-down, what would you typically expect that to do for you?
 
Not discounting the statement bitflipper appropriately made and others agree, this is some seriously low-hanging fruit to address. Would anyone disagree that moving the "Select" export function to As Selected and leave Entire Mix for the entire mix only is an ok idea? How do other DAW's do this?
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