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2016/03/14 12:52:01
GaryMedia
I've been playing with the updated TouchDAW Android app from Humatic.   Along the way I decided to replace the rtpMIDI with their beta mnet.  [www.humatic.de/htools ] Surprisingly, it seems that mnet supports Bluetooth in Windows and will presumably present a MIDI port to SONAR.  
 
I don't have a way of testing this right now, but it could be what you've been trying to find. 
2016/03/15 01:21:15
Pan65
Hmm, wouldn't there be a significant amount of latency if you connect a midi controller via Bluetooth?
2016/03/15 06:17:32
jpetersen
Midi runs
Pan65
Hmm, wouldn't there be a significant amount of latency if you connect a midi controller via Bluetooth?

No. Midi runs at 31.25 K and bluetooth at 2.4 GHz with data rates of 24 Mbits/sec.
It handles audio and video, so Midi is no problem.
2016/05/27 17:44:57
pjkemp
does that mean that cakewalk has no intention of incorporating support for the universal apps MIDI API?
 
PK
2016/05/27 19:09:20
Cactus Music
There sure enough is latency with audio over Bluetooth , but I could see that midi is much less data to deal with so possibly the latency is low enough to work, But myself after my experience with Bluetooth audio I'm not going to waist time thinking about more Bluetooth stuff.
2016/05/27 19:21:31
pjkemp
All I can go from is the experience that I have had on an iPad with the propellerhead synth, thor, and the Korg iM1.
 
I am using a wx5 wind controller with the Yamaha MDBT-01 bluetooth midi interface.
 
For all intents and purposes the wx5 reacts well enough that at my skill level I cannot tell the difference between wired midi and midi over Bluetooth LE. There are also others who regularily use the BTLE midi interfaces in serious performance environments. 
 
Based on that experience I am looking with anticipation for the release of midi over BTLE on windows 10 and the software support for this connection...
 
Cheers
Phil Kemp
 
2016/07/17 09:45:15
pjkemp
will cakewalk/sonar support the "newer universal apps MIDI API" ?
 
2016/07/17 11:32:40
Anderton
The MIDI API - available across all Windows 10 devices - allows multi-client access to single MIDI hardware. Doesn't SONAR already support this by virtue of running on Windows 10?
 
CME is going to be sending me one of their new Bluetooth keyboards for evaluation so I can test if/how it works with SONAR and Windows 10. CME claims latency is around 7 ms...I can deal with that.
2016/07/17 14:18:56
pjkemp
I wish that were true. I have tried to get current windows 10 to enumerate a bluetooth midi dongle on win 10 to no avail.
 
I'm hoping that the anniversary release will pair and recognize the device so that the rest of the midi stack can work.
 
( I will say that the fast ring releases will enumerate the dongle and tests ok with the midi test app designed by MS to see if a function operates properly ) I have tried cakewalk on the releases and it runs fine on the legacy midi devices but does not 'see' the new windows API device while paired and enumerated. 
 
Please let us know if the CME keyboard works. It looks like CME uses a hardware/software dongle to make things work. make sure you try the CME keyboaord with a standard BT LE device in a win 10 device (say a surface pro) . that will be the real test of the use to the new MIDI windows API. I'll bet the CME WIDI Bud makes the internal connection to BTLE and then maps the device to the legacy MIDI API. bypassing the new MIDI API. I'm very interested....
 
 
Thanks
PK
 
2017/01/10 20:21:50
DjiDoe
No news here ?
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