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2017/04/15 22:30:50
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jsg
Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary. 

 
The last time I used Sonar was version 8.5.
I think I attempted to edit and noticed a larger text, I was not sure how this happened. Given your responds, this may have happened because the track it self or clip was zoomed?

I also noticed that the icons on the Piano roll looked different after I upgraded, I am certain things can be configured however, I was not ready for the change at the moment given I was just beginning to get my feet wet after an 8 year hiatus. 
2017/04/15 22:32:22
scook
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scook
FWIW, I am a customer too.

My apologies: I was under the impression you are one of those Admins with second alias or account suppressing views of those who has not drank the cool aid and that are actual paying customers. Or you are simply one of those trolls/bullies.

It is clear you have not read many posts on the forum. All Cakewalk employees have [Cakewalk] at the end of the user names. I have never used an alternate account and do not need or ask your permission to post. If you want help consider posting in a way that might get results. There is nothing actionable in this post.
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I just upgraded and I am not sure what the idea with the Event View is.
This thing is worse than flying Peter Griffin's cow-kite. 
Maybe I can configure this but it is simply bad.
 
This is why I have issues with subscriptions, because sometimes a company may feel compelled to make changes as a way of keeping subscriptions enticing.

AI


Can you suggest how a user might help you with this?
 
On the other hand, if you just want to vent that is OK too. Based on your replies though, it is not clear what you are complaining about.
 
Good luck either way.
2017/04/15 23:40:07
noynekker


"You keep talking about point of sale and a specific feature.
I am a customer, and like a movie review, I find a feature/scene horrible.
 
I may have referenced the wrong feature, given I am not at my computer but after I upgraded I noticed editing notes have changed.

It's subjective and obviously, I am not going to get in a ping-pong like argument. 

Thanks for the conversation."
 


I think it's actually the Piano Roll View you don't like, correct ?
2017/04/16 00:27:34
tenfoot
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Any one should be allowed to come in here and say they do not like something about the software. They should not need to have a justifiable reasons.


That would mean there was nothing to solve or discuss. Surely it would be more constructive to stick to reason and logic?
 
It is always tough coming back to software after a long break. Obviously much will have changed. More often than not frustration grows out of unfamiliarity rather than loss of functionality.
 
If the recent piano roll view changes are your gripe, stay tuned. As the bakers have indicated in other threads they are a work in progress. There is also much that is good in there if you spend a little time with it. I suspect given your hiatus though the frustration runs a litter deeper.
 
If you can outline the issues you are having there are many here that could assist. It is not going to help if you attack people like scook simply for posting facts that you don't agree with though. He arguably knows more about Sonar and has helped more people than just about anyone here.
2017/04/16 04:36:32
promidi
jsg
 
Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary.  
 


How does one make the text larger in Event View in Sonar? (Note I am using Sonar Platinum).   I have not been able to find where to do that.
2017/04/16 05:41:30
BENT
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Any one should be allowed to come in here and say they do not like something about the software. They should not need to have a justifiable reasons. 

Really? Well I don't like soggy chips and I'm not going to justify why! So there!
 
Thank you scook for all the assistance you give, I for one really appreciate all your effort. :)
2017/04/16 11:28:38
chuckebaby
My only suggestion is if you want to bring up valid points (complain or vent), bring ammunition .
Im actually confused about what it is you don't like. Hope it all works out though.
Make good music.
 
PS- For what's its worth, I've been using Sonar since Pro audio (around 1999) and the Event viewer hasn't changed much at all.
2017/04/16 11:46:04
THambrecht
I use the event list very often, because I have named audioclips and so I can very easy jump to this audioevents.
But I'm missing the possibility to name the audioclips within the event list.
I love the way to batch export audioclips because the files get the clipname.
But the way to name clips within the inspector is very unhappy, because you have to click the clip first, and then move the mouse to the inspector and then click again in a little row. And the inspector has only a little field. Longer names cannot displayed and are difficult to write.
So I would like an update to the event list in order to name audioclips.
 
2017/04/16 12:54:35
John
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scook
I do not believe the sales model has anything to do with how the event list looks today. The event list looked the same in X1.



Come on scook. You really believe I think Cakewalk moved to subscription because of event viewer?
I am speaking in general, that when a software model is based on subscription, sometimes there is a pressure to deliver changes that may or may not be beneficial to users.

I believe similar concern has already been raised regarding changes to the Notation Editor:
Here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Unbelievable-Notation-Editor-now-Worse-than-Ever-m3587785.aspx
 


You can believe this but the premise seems very faulty. You use a feature that has not changed to prove your point. It seems to me that CW has a lot of features to add to Sonar just from the feature requests forum alone. They don't need to change a feature that works well as it is simply to change it for change sake.  
2017/04/16 15:59:04
brundlefly
Seems pretty clear to me the OP meant the PRV, but called it the Event View.
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