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2017/04/07 15:05:17
fantini
deswind
Doesn't everyone before they record?  Seriously, this has to be the post of the year.
 
 
fantini
Try eating a spoonful of Oregano Leaves.






deswind
Doesn't everyone before they record?  Seriously, this has to be the post of the year.
 
 
fantini
Try eating a spoonful of Oregano Leaves.






Seriously, it works for me.  Be sure to have water bottle handy.  Also, when you're on the road, keep it concealed. The police often confuse it with marijuana. 


2017/04/07 15:12:56
Unknowen
I may have not been clear with my problem. lol
I could hear the rasp in the headphones (monitoring) as recording but it was on the recording.
I have been using ever trick I could think of to add (as I like to call it) sand to the mix but I wanted the gravel of my voice.
My idea was that I was missing something going into the DAW...
EQ pre daw was the answer. I never messed with anything going in I just hit record...
Thanks for all the ideas!
 
I don't know if it will help anyone but this is what I ended up doing.
For me recoding myself makes it hard to really hear what I am recording. Duh! lol 
I used the Spectrum on the IK meter in real-time as I was singing to adjust the channel strip’s EQ so I basically was getting a full frequency sweep at -20db from around 200 – 20k so now when I record my voice there won’t be frequency that are nonexistent or too hot.
 I have to say this was amazing! I can see what my voice is doing now and if I have a full spectrum I won’t have to add sand to a missing or low frequency that was not really there in the first place. Well I’m psyched! 😊
 
2017/04/07 17:22:37
mettelus
11Dreams

I can hear it when recording but on playback it's always gone.



Not sure if this is mentioned above, but what you hear in your own ears is muffled and affected by all of the tissue and bone between your voice and ears. What a microphone records is truth, and how others hear you, so if not recorded it is not as prevalent as you perceive.

Practicing as suggested above will help you condition yourself, but always do so with a mic as your judge. And not while singing, but post-production.

Most folks do not realize the high pitch content of their voice until recorded. Rolling off that high end will also be more like "what you hear."
2017/04/08 07:30:48
M@
As mettelus and one other poster mentioned: How you hear yourself (with or without headphones) is not the same as what is heard/projected in(to) the room.

Never tried myself, maybe others have tried and can comment:
Radioamateurs use 'throat mics' which might capture some of the sound being produced 'inside' your throat ? Blended with the regular sound might work? No idea, just brainstorming.

Or maybe if you try adding a sensitive close-up directional mic to the side of your throat....?
2017/04/08 11:27:07
Kalle Rantaaho
11Dreams
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My idea was that I was missing something going into the DAW...
EQ pre daw was the answer. I never messed with anything going in I just hit record...
Thanks for all the ideas!
 
! 😊
 



Nice you got it solved, or found a workaround. Though, IMO, that means you're using a mic not suitable for vocals.
2017/04/08 13:07:32
JohanSebatianGremlin
11Dreams
I may have not been clear with my problem. lol
I could hear the rasp in the headphones (monitoring) as recording but it was on the recording.
I have been using ever trick I could think of to add (as I like to call it) sand to the mix but I wanted the gravel of my voice.
 

I assume you meant it wasn't on the recording. Like I said, you hear yourself differently in your own head than everyone else hears you. This would still be the case when wearing headphones.
 
All these suggestions for adding a touch of distortion or using cheaper mics or better mics etc are all well and good. But none will add gravel to a voice. Tom Waits sounds like that because he sounds like that. You add distortion and you get Tom Waits with distortion. You try a cheaper mic and you get Tom Waits through a cheaper mic. But the reason his voice sounds like Tom Waits is because he's Tom Waits.
 
IOW there is no combination of mic/EQ/processing that's going to allow you record Tom Waits in and get smooth silky Pavarotti-like tones out. Works the same way in the other direction. Can't start with Pavarotti and get Tom.
2017/04/08 20:44:47
Unknowen
Well I'm using my Taylor Swift microphone.  
With my skinny jeans and wig I thought I could pull it off... ;)
Vocals are sounding alot better now!
 
Thanks to all.
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