• SONAR
  • Can we make this forum more positive? (p.11)
2017/03/07 21:45:42
Shambler
I see a few negative posts now and then but on the whole the forum is a respectful and helpful place.
2017/03/07 22:09:38
AdamGrossmanLG
ampfixer
Unfiltered honesty doesn't work in social situations. It's a sure way for things to descend into chaos. 




and aint that a shame.  

there is no reason it shouldn't if dealing with other rational and sane people.
2017/03/07 22:37:31
Anderton
AdamGrossmanLG
i feel there should be NO directive on what kind of mood the forum should have.

i want to hear PURE honesty.  why not?   i mean who is so sensitive that you can't hear  someone's gripes?
 
I hate filters.



Then you shouldn't even be here, because you're forced to deal with the biggest filter of all: a text-only medium. It filters out all nuance, body language, and expressiveness.
 
Also, there is a difference between honesty and negativity. It's entirely possible to be honest and positive; it just takes a little more effort (or in some cases, self-control).
 
A forum is a place "a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." People will have a more enjoyable experience if discussions can occur without an overlay of negativity. I can't think of any situation where a lack of civility is preferable to civility.
2017/03/07 22:41:08
AdamGrossmanLG
Anderton
AdamGrossmanLG
i feel there should be NO directive on what kind of mood the forum should have.

i want to hear PURE honesty.  why not?   i mean who is so sensitive that you can't hear  someone's gripes?
 
I hate filters.



Then you shouldn't even be here, because you're forced to deal with the biggest filter of all: a text-only medium. It filters out all nuance, body language, and expressiveness.
 
Also, there is a difference between honesty and negativity. It's entirely possible to be honest and positive; it just takes a little more effort (or in some cases, self-control).
 
A forum is a place "a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." People will have a more enjoyable experience if discussions can occur without an overlay of negativity. I can't think of any situation where a lack of civility is preferable to civility.




what about if there is something to be negative about?  
2017/03/07 22:46:18
Bristol_Jonesey
C'mon, if you try really hard you can bring positivity into ANY scenario you could care to think of.
 
There are far, far worse things going on in the world than a piece of software not functioning properly/not being used correctly and they don't let it stop them.
2017/03/07 22:59:26
ampfixer
Adam points out, that at times there will be things that we can be negative about, and I agree. A person can have their say, good or bad, and most folks wont complain. The problems start when somebody decides that their issues should be everyone's issues and they start a relentless campaign to bend peoples opinions to conform with theirs. IMO this is where most forum issues come from. Not freedom of expression, but the need to be seen a right, and win.
2017/03/07 23:03:12
AdamGrossmanLG
the need to be seen as right is often needed when trying to prove a point not many understand.   



and quotes like:
 
"There are far, far worse things going on in the world than a piece of software not functioning properly/not being used correctly and they don't let it stop them."
 
OF COURSE!  Nothing is life or death here, but this is a forum ABOUT CAKEWALK!!!   if this isn't the right place to post gripes, where is?  LOL

everyone took my post about poor MIDI implementation as if my life is forever destroyed LOL.  Far from that.  I was simply making a post, but people can't seem to handle it.
2017/03/07 23:07:19
kitekrazy1
rlared
I don't know of any other DAW company that regularly interacts with its users on the user forums like Cakewalk does.
 
I really wish that people would think twice before nitpicking, complaining, and antagonizing Cakewalk on the forums.  I feel that there is a huge amount of negativity on the forums in that respect.
 
I remember when I first got into DAWs about 5 years ago, Cakewalk's forums were a great place to learn and interact.  It's still a great forum but now I perceive a lot more negativity.  I would love to see it become more positive. . . with the participation of the Cakewalk staff it could be a truly exceptional forum.
 
For those that agree with my sentiments, let's all be more judicious about when we participate in negative threads. 
 
Some possible examples:
Someone is trolling?  Don't encourage them by commenting. 
Have concerns that Cakewalk's lifetime updates are a money grab?  Express your concerns in a rational and constructive way instead of just making blanket statements that assume the worst. 
Having issues with Sonar?  Post some actual details and give the community a chance to help. 
Think Cakewalk's customer support needs improvement?  Make the suggestion, but once the staff answers, go drink a beer and let it go!
 
Yes, we're all paying customers and we want value for our money.  But just try to think about how you'd want to be treated if you were on the receiving end. 
 
Thanks!
 
 
 
 
 




See Image Line and Reaper.  Imagine Line is superior at this.  There is nonsense everywhere. Just deal with it. Unfortunately people reply to threads that are old.
 
While an opening post may be negative I see most people on this forum turn it into humor.
2017/03/07 23:08:26
Anderton
AdamGrossmanLG
Anderton
AdamGrossmanLG
i feel there should be NO directive on what kind of mood the forum should have.

i want to hear PURE honesty.  why not?   i mean who is so sensitive that you can't hear  someone's gripes?
 
I hate filters.



Then you shouldn't even be here, because you're forced to deal with the biggest filter of all: a text-only medium. It filters out all nuance, body language, and expressiveness.
 
Also, there is a difference between honesty and negativity. It's entirely possible to be honest and positive; it just takes a little more effort (or in some cases, self-control).
 
A forum is a place "a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." People will have a more enjoyable experience if discussions can occur without an overlay of negativity. I can't think of any situation where a lack of civility is preferable to civility.




what about if there is something to be negative about?  




Then you handle it in the most appropriate way that will obtain the desired results.
 
Example: You're at a party and some guy's fly is open.
 
Negative approach: Say in a loud voice "Hey! Look at the stupid moron who isn't bright enough to zip up his fly after peeing! Hahahah!"
 
Positive approach: Take the guy aside and say "Excuse me, your fly is open."
 
In both cases the person is being honest. But one approach is negative (and also intrudes on other people), while the other is positive.
2017/03/07 23:09:54
bitman
Yay for the forum!
 
How's that.
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