Anderton

AdamGrossmanLG

Anderton

AdamGrossmanLG
i feel there should be NO directive on what kind of mood the forum should have.

i want to hear PURE honesty.  why not?   i mean who is so sensitive that you can't hear  someone's gripes?
 
I hate filters.

Then you shouldn't even be here, because you're forced to deal with the biggest filter of all: a text-only medium. It filters out all nuance, body language, and expressiveness.
 
Also, there is a difference between honesty and negativity. It's entirely possible to be honest and positive; it just takes a little more effort (or in some cases, self-control).
 
A forum is a place "a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." People will have a more enjoyable experience if discussions can occur without an overlay of negativity. I can't think of any situation where a lack of civility is preferable to civility.

what about if there is something to be negative about?  

Then you handle it in the most appropriate way that will obtain the desired results.
 
Example: You're at a party and some guy's fly is open.
 
Negative approach: Say in a loud voice "Hey! Look at the stupid moron who isn't bright enough to zip up his fly after peeing! Hahahah!"
 
Positive approach: Take the guy aside and say "Excuse me, your fly is open."
 
In both cases the person is being honest. But one approach is negative (and also intrudes on other people), while the other is positive.

I did the positive approach along with many other users for YEARS about the issues with MIDI.   I knew this time I needed a different approach.

AdamGrossmanLG
and quotes like:
 
"There are far, far worse things going on in the world than a piece of software not functioning properly/not being used correctly and they don't let it stop them."
 
OF COURSE!  Nothing is life or death here, but this is a forum ABOUT CAKEWALK!!!   if this isn't the right place to post gripes, where is?  LOL

There are specific venues to register complaints, feature requests, and bug reports. If they don't lead to changes, posting here won't.
 
Aside from that, though, you continue to moderate your tone as the discussion continues, which I would like to think is more representative of who you are. This is what I mean about the filtering of a text-only medium. You say "everyone took my post about poor MIDI implementation as if my life is forever destroyed LOL.  Far from that."
 
If only you'd said something to that effect as part of your initial post to add more detail to an otherwise negative post, and not felt it necessary to belittle the forum community, I'm sure the ensuing discussion would have been very different. I really do believe you do not benefit from the filtering of a text-only medium, but really, none of us do. When I get into the most trouble is when I try to add humor and it's taken seriously. 

Something that would make me happier on the forum would be to see folks make an effort to really get to know the program.
Clearly the forum is the first stop for many people, they're given an answer and off they go till the next time.

I'm a student of the reference guide and while I can't always find everything there are so many times that a short look there would not only give an answer but also provide additional info for later use.

C'mon folks, how do you think that folks like scook and Anderton and many others know so much about the program. They educate themselves. Some folks seem too scared to click on a button or select a menu option.

Please don't start a war over my comments.or complain that the manual is too difficult to read. Just study the table of contents. That's only 50 pages out of 2500.

There's even a section at the beginning that lists every single feature that's been added from the Allston release to 2016/12. They're even linked to where you get the info on that feature. Geez!

Please make me happy.

To which I would add if people don't want to read the manual, the Help button in dialog boxes is tremendously helpful. One time I was getting dropouts left and right. When the toast notification came up there was a help button. I clicked on it and went through the suggested remedies. After a few tries, I hit the one that solved the problem. It took a lot less time than coming to the forum and waiting for scook to set me straight 

Here's a test for you;

Next time someone ask a question like where can I find out more about the included plugins? Go find out.

One answer is to instantiate the plugin and press F1 to open up that plugins help file. Great.

Another Is info in the manual/reference guide? There's a reference guide? Ah that hasn't been updated since X3 or something is a common reply.

Recent update was 2017/12 for the Sonar Reference Guide.pdf, located in C:/Program Files/Cakewalk/Sonar Platinum.
Online reference guide is updated with every release.

Just spend a few minutes going through the table of contents (50 pages) and you'll see that you not only get a very comprehensive answer but you'll accidentally pick up info about the location of lots of other info that will help you another time.

Part of my original post:
"For those that agree with my sentiments, let's all be more judicious about when we participate in negative threads."
 
The post was purposely worded as a question, specifically for people who are interested.  Not a directive on general forum behavior, as if I have any control over that.
 
I think it's funny that some of the responders to this post seem to take my original request as an affront to their right to be negative.   

mudgel

Another Is info in the manual/reference guide? There's a reference guide? Ah that hasn't been updated since X3 or something is a common reply.

Recent update was 2017/12 for the Sonar Reference Guide.pdf, located in C:/Program Files/Cakewalk/Sonar Platinum.
Online reference guide is updated with every release.

there is a huge difference between 'being updated' and being 'up to date' i am sure as a student of the manual, you are aware as most people are that there are many entries that are outdated, and many entries that simply don't work as described in the real world, or don't work at all, without the need for one of many workarounds which new users will likely not know about . . . so to the forums they come

RTFM FTW?

Ignoring option for 'complaints' is not very hard...is it? Don't mean to be a negative strike here....but maybe for some, having a place to vent is good for them....??
I understand however people's frustration with 'goodbye cruel cakewalk' posts...lol.....but ahh :-)
no biggie really....is it??

gerard st. pierre
 maybe for some, having a place to vent is good for them....??

 
Venting is good. However I choose not to vent or criticize a product on the very site that has allowed me to be their guest.