2011/06/21 11:28:19
TheMightyVH
Robomusic


Here is the Deal. ASIO4All is not a true ASIO driver, it is a wrapper that makes the windows WDM driver think it is ASIO.

Interfaces like the Lexicon come with driver install disks that contain true native ASIO drivers. You should find the driver here  http://lexiconpro.com/downloads.php 

The reason Cubase sees a driver might because Cubase is a Stienberg product, and yes you guessed it they created ASIO drivers.

The big question is did you install the Lexicon driver disk, or just the cubase install disk?

If you want MC5 to work on ASIO drivers, you need to make sure they are installed properly.
Not only did I install the Lexicon driver, I used the most current driver via the web - not the disk it came with.  There is no specific "ASIO" driver for the Lexicon that I can find.  I installed it from alphadriverinstaller.exe and it's a very basic installation with no options.  I've google searched Lexicon ASIO driver, searched the Lexicon site to no avail.  I'm guessing it should be part of the basic driver installation, but it's not. 
 
In the audio set up, on the second tab where MME32 is selected by default, I choose ASIO.  After closing and re-opening, MC tells me there's no playback device, and gives me no options to choose from.  I change it back from ASIO to MME32 and I get Lexicon IN/Out as the only option for the playback device, but no option for Lexicon ASIO.
 
Oh, and I use MC4, not 5.  Not sure if that makes a difference.  Does 4 not support ASIO?
 
2011/06/21 11:43:03
57Gregy
When it says there are no playback devices, you have to select them in Options>Audio. Select the Lex as both your playback and recording timing master, then ensure that the Lexicon is selected (and nothing else) under the Drivers tab.
Yes, MC 4 is compatible with ASIO.
Another user here had some problems with her Alpha and I searched for the Lexicon ASIO driver, too, and never saw a reference. But some of the FAQs for the Alpha mentioned setting up the ASIO driver, so I assume the drivers you get are ASIO.
2011/06/21 11:49:31
TheMightyVH
The Lexicon is only available as a playback and recording timing master if mme32 is selected.  It's when I switch that mode to ASIO, that I get no options at all for playback and timing master.  If the default Lexicon driver is ASIO, then there's no reference to it in MC.  It only lists it as Lexicon in/out.  In Cubase, 2 diffrent drivers show up.  Lexicon in/out and Lexicon ASIO. 
 
If I select Lexion in/out as the driver, it's back to the original problem.  I can hear what I've recorded previously in MC, but as soon as I arm a track for recording....I get nothing but static.  Can I use the lexicon as the timing master and the built in sound card for playback?  I'm at work and not on that computer, so I can't test until later today.
 
Sorry to be a pain with this, but it's very frustrating!
2011/06/21 13:10:53
Guitarhacker
If you try to load ASIO and then it doesn't show any devices, my guess is that the Lexicon doesn't support the ASIO drivers.

I went looking on the site and could not find that specific bit of info. Using the incorrect drivers will cause issues.
2011/06/21 15:03:54
TheMightyVH
Guitarhacker


If you try to load ASIO and then it doesn't show any devices, my guess is that the Lexicon doesn't support the ASIO drivers.

I went looking on the site and could not find that specific bit of info. Using the incorrect drivers will cause issues.


Thanks again....the only part that has me scratching my head is that Cubase shows a specific driver called Lexicon ASIO.  It also has Lexicon in/out.  What's weird is even in Cubase if I select Lexicon ASIO, I get no playback.  Only Lexicon in/out works, but with that I get random blasts of static while recording tracks.
2011/06/21 15:50:38
Guitarhacker
Some interfaces are built better than others. Perhaps the Lexicon is one of the "not so well" designed and engineered interfaces.

I know the Focusrite and MAudio interfaces work well because many here use them. Is there any way you could trade the lexicon in for an MAudio to try it and see?

Just thinking out loud here. I do know that certain brands do not work well....
2011/06/21 16:44:15
TheMightyVH
Guitarhacker


Some interfaces are built better than others. Perhaps the Lexicon is one of the "not so well" designed and engineered interfaces.

I know the Focusrite and MAudio interfaces work well because many here use them. Is there any way you could trade the lexicon in for an MAudio to try it and see?

Just thinking out loud here. I do know that certain brands do not work well....

Funny you mention that, I was actually planning on returning it and picking up an Maudio.  More often than not you get what you pay for, and the Lexicon was cheap.  I'm going to install the Lexicon on a different computer tonight and see if I have better luck. If not, it's the Maudio.
Thanks to everyone for all the help.  I really appreciate it!
 
2011/06/21 18:20:11
Tap
As a side note.... If you have Cubase or another application open and using the ASIO Driver for your Lexi, then I don't believe any other application can use it.
2011/06/22 00:12:14
57Gregy
Did you delete ASIO4All from your computer? That is an essential step to getting ASIO drivers to work. The ASIO4All driver has been described as 'agressive' by some folks, meaning it wiil try to take over the audio if it is present. If you have ASIO4All on your computer and select ASIO as your driver, more than likely you're getting ASIO4All and not ASIO.
2011/06/22 10:00:35
TheMightyVH
Yes, ASIO4all is gone, but it's still not working....but I have a workaround.  I was able to successfully record a tune last night (pre-production) using MC and not Cubase.  I used the Lexicon in/out drivers for the recording timing master and my built in sound card as the playback master.  The latency was acceptable, and not hisses or static on the tracks.  For whatever reason it seems the Lexicon can't handle both the recording and the playback. 

I'm looking forward to actually finishing this song and I'll debut it here first to show you all the fruits of my labor! I'm no engineer that's for sure, but I'll do my best to make the recording quality bearable.  I'm working on guitar intrumental stuff if any of you are into that type of thing.

Thank you all for your help, I really appreciate it!
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