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2016/06/14 12:27:21
John
Tripecac
No, in reality, I have paid for X1, X2, X3, Platinum, and (gasp) the Lifetime updates
 

Say it ain't so. No not lifetime, anything but that!!!!!!That is the worst news I have had lately! 
2016/06/14 12:30:09
Andrzej Salm
I'm with Tripecac on this one.
 
I come from an even more ancient Sonar version, the 6PE. I absolutely hate the idea of track inspector altogether.
 
Firstly, I like to work in full screen mode, I don't like to have any windows docked. 
 
Secondly, hitting Ctrl+I and opening the inspector always brings me to the MixStrip tab, so I have to click yet another time to go to the clip properties tab.
 
Thirdly, the bastarding thing's window cannot be adjusted horizontally. If I have a clip with a long name, like "14/06/16 take1 overheads Left" it quickly becomes a nightmare.
 
What was wrong with the good old "clip properties" window?! It could be accessed by just double clicking on a clip in older versions of Sonar... and it would go away by a single click.
 
 
 
 
 
2016/06/14 12:41:50
Base 57
Clip Properties is Shift+I
2016/06/14 14:08:26
Brando
Tripecac
 
I am using Platinum, and posted Problem Reports about Platinum.  Some of the problems I am having go back to X1, however; hence my references to X1.
 



You should reference that, both in your threads (in future), and in your signature, then. Your post above, said you were using, and wanted to use, X1 rather than going back to 8.5.3. Your signature says X1d and X2.
The fact that you own Platinum, but dislike the X series so much begs the question of why you didn't at least try the Platinum DEMO before you bought it - even more so before committing to (Gasp!) lifetime updates. If not disingenuousness as I supposed, what then - naivete?
Whatever - whether you accept it or not, there has been a lot of very good advice in all of your threads to date - but assuming that everyone wants to go back to 8.5 is a wrong assumption.
 
2016/06/14 14:23:20
Tripecac
assuming that everyone wants to go back to 8.5 is a wrong assumption.

 
Who is assuming that everyone wants to go back to 8.5 ?
 
Who is even assuming that I want to go back to 8.5 ?  I have stated several times, in various posts, that I want Cakewalk to add back some of the customisability they took away from 8.5.3.  I have never stated that I want Cakewalk to create a new branch of 8.5.3. 
 
If I didn't appreciate at least some of the improvements in X1, then why would I have invested in X2, and X3, and Platinum, and the lifetime upgrades?  I'm sorry if I have not been more vocal about the things I appreciate in X1/2/3/Platinum.  However, I don't use this forum to praise Cakewalk.  I use it to [try to] get help on the problems I am experiencing.  If Cakewalk had addressed the issues I posted via the Problem Reporter, I wouldn't be using the forum.  As much.
 
Clearly, I am focused on the future of Cakewalk.  I am hoping for a future in which we get back our ability to customise Sonar in the ways that work for us individually.  We are all individuals, aren't we? 
 
 
2016/06/14 14:47:55
Brando
Well maybe it has something to do with your writing this in this very thread:
Tripecac
Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that many of the operations I am performing on a daily basis are slower for me in X1/2/3/Platinum than in 8.5.3.  For me, the difference in efficiency is not "fairly trivial".  It is consistently annoying. 
 
In 5 years, I still have not learned to adapt my habits to X1/2/3/Platinum.  People on this forum keep telling me "accept it" or "get used to it".  But, 5 years on, I still have not accepted Sonar X1/2/3/Platinum's "quirks", nor that Sonar has to continue to be less usable for me than it was was 8.5.3.  I preferred the more Windows-y 8.5.3, because it had a more efficient design (and less buggy implementation).  I would go back to it, except I am worried about compatibility with my more recently acquired plugins.  Also, I know that if I retreat to 8.5.3, I will not have any input whatsoever into the future development of Sonar.  Believe it or not, there is a chance that people at Cakewalk are reading these topics, even if they don't publicly acknowledge them.  I know my issues are probably low priority, but If I stop squeaking, the wheel will NEVER be oiled. 
 
If Cakewalk could fix the bugs, and bring back the UI efficiency and flexibility of 8.5.3, I will be happy.  And quiet. 
 
So instead of telling me to stop complaining, another strategy would be to +1 my posts, or submit similar bug reports.  Of course, that would mean admitting that Cakewalk has made some design (or implementation) mistakes, and to Cakewalk disciples, that might be a painful admission.  Sacrilegious.  It's much safer to tell me to shut up and accept the new status quo, isn't it?  Stop rocking the boat, Tripecac, no matter how right you think you are.
 
Heard it all before.  5 years' worth!  If I sound like a broken record, it is because Sonar is a broken program.  But it can be fixed.  Unlike me. :)
 


 
 
2016/06/14 16:12:59
chuckebaby
Andrzej Salm
What was wrong with the good old "clip properties" window?! It could be accessed by just double clicking on a clip in older versions of Sonar... and it would go away by a single click.

well now its only 1 click and you have your properties showing in the inspector.
you can re-visit the " what happen to my old settings just like 8.5 / old versions of sonar" all you want.
aint going to change anything.
as ive stated before...you either learn to adapt to Sonar, or you don't.
 
 
this is only my personal opinion but it seems those who have problems with certain features. looking for ways to make their work flow easier and not looking at the general out look / the way every one works..not just them.
they need to learn more about the features of sonar and not just focus on their every day routines.
 
to expand is to learn. to keep doing the same old things, same old habits, you wont learn anything.
there are many valuable tools and features in sonar to be taken for the prize.
these are often over looked by stubborn people not wanting to change their ways.
and I can attest to being one of those stubborn people myself.
but I have found in order to become productive, you have to give in and learn some of the less often paths.
 
its this way with every thing, not just DAW software.
when Computer based application began taking over...I sat their with my old analog tapes saying, I don't want to change.
im quite happy with the way I work now. but when they stopped selling tape at my distributor, I was forced to make a change.
 
 
 
2016/06/14 21:37:34
Tripecac
Okay, I see now that the Control Bar is the thing at the top, right under the menu bar.  It's always visible for me.  I don't think I ever use it, however, except to start and stop playback.  I see the custom area on the right, where I can add quick links to functions in the top menu bar.
 
I don't see a command for renaming a clip, however.  Hmm...
 
If Cakewalk added a "Rename clip" function to the top menu, that would let us setup keyboard shortcuts or custom control bar commands to quickly rename clips.  Does that sound like a decent idea?  If so, in what menu should "Rename clip" go?
 
2016/06/14 21:54:13
Tripecac
I've been wondering if CAL could be used to rename clips.  It looks like CAL can rename Tracks (via TrackName) but not clips. Does that sound correct?
2016/06/14 22:11:46
tenfoot
Tripecac
I've been wondering if CAL could be used to rename clips.  It looks like CAL can rename Tracks (via TrackName) but not clips. Does that sound correct?




Even if it were possible, in what universe is selecting a clip, running a cal scrip, typing in a new clip name then applying the cal any kind of improvement over changing the selected clip (or clips) name in the inspector clip properties box?
 
Many people have taken the time to answer your question, both in this thread and the one you started five years ago. You now know without any shadow of a doubt the best way to change a clips name. For the love of dogs move on!
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