RexRed... You can make your jokes all you want, fan boys and twerkers.

 
You keep using that word.
 
I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Twerker

Better than twankers I suppose.. Margainly...

RexRed

Sanderxpander
I'm still wondering what stretching/timing option V-Vocal has that Melodyne doesn't. Could anyone enlighten me? I've never missed anything in Melodyne and I didn't like V-Vocal switching its view when I went to the timing tools.

Try spending some time in V-vocal and you will figure it out. I am not that proficient in Melodyne but (i think) In order to stretch large swathes of waves .....

 
The problem is that you have not taken the time to become proficient with Melodyne but you are very proficient with V-Vocal. Use V-Vocal if it works for you, but please don't tell Melodyne users they are amateurs and don't blame the program when you honestly don't know how to use it.
 
Another thing to consider is that the version of Melodyne that ships with Sonar does not have all the features of V-Vocal. You do have to upgrade to Editor - at which point the feature set shifts dramatically in Melodynes favor.
 
Craig, dubdisciple, and Danny (Danzi) have provided extremely positive posts in this rather nasty thread. I'll reiterate what they have said.
1: Use what you want to use.... that is all that matters.
2: V-Vocal is Rolands product, not Cakewalks. Your blaming the wrong company.

CakeAlexS
Better than twankers I suppose.. Margainly...

I really like your "Driving" song Alex, your voice reminds me of one of my all time favorite vocalists, Alice Cooper.
 
Nice work :)
 

codamedia

RexRed

Sanderxpander
I'm still wondering what stretching/timing option V-Vocal has that Melodyne doesn't. Could anyone enlighten me? I've never missed anything in Melodyne and I didn't like V-Vocal switching its view when I went to the timing tools.

Try spending some time in V-vocal and you will figure it out. I am not that proficient in Melodyne but (i think) In order to stretch large swathes of waves .....

This sounds like a case of "old dog learning new tricks"...
 
The problem is that you have not taken the time to become proficient with Melodyne but you are very proficient with V-Vocal. Use V-Vocal if it works for you, but please don't tell Melodyne users they are amateurs and don't blame the program when you honestly don't know how to use it.
 
Another thing to consider is that the version of Melodyne that ships with Sonar does not have all the features of V-Vocal. You do have to upgrade to Editor - at which point the feature set shifts dramatically in Melodynes favor.
 
Both Craig and Danny (Danzi) have provided extremely positive posts in this rather nasty thread. I'll reiterate what they have said. Use what you want to use.... that is all that matters.

I have used the editor version of Melodyne 2.0 with the entire tool set before and it was not a good experience for me. I had most of the basics down within a few hours.
 
Every time I go back to it I say to myself, This is taking too long with too little progress, And then the darn thing freezes up on me because it does not like to handle long vocal tracks and time and time again end up back in V-vocal...
 
I am someone who knows how to use programs like 3D Studio Max, I have programmed a few CAL routines in Cakewalk and was making definition files in POVRAY many years ago. Cakewalk is my prized possession and always has been since I started out on PC's. Melodyne is full featured, I do know that, I just find its ease of use (after the learning curve) time consuming to say the least.
 
 
 
 

I will concede Melodyne is far more time consuming to master than Vvocal...and it should be.  The level of things possible is so much more vast that I would be shocked it if was somehow just as easy to use. I just used Melodyne to rip a synth from a polyphonic track.  It was not easy and results were not perfect, but suitable for what  I needed.  I hate doing difficult things but difficult wins out over impossible in my book.  Again, since you have Vvocal you don't have to choose.  For simple pitch correction tasks I can see someone just using VVocal (or many other options like Autoune or even the pitch correction in Nectar), but the bottomline is with very few exceptions (and I am giving that allowance even though i can't think of a single one) there is nothing in Vvocal that can't be done as well or better in Melodyne and LOTS of things can be done in Melodyne that can't be done in Vvocal.

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@Mike known issue (on X3E?)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...aspx?m=3009637&p=1

I wonder of vvocal does the same and it is a RegionFx problem?

Ta

I"d take a good Melodyne tutorial, unlike what I'm finding in Youtube.  I've got a window flying out from the left side that takes up about a third of the screen, that  I have no idea why it's doing that and sometimes features work, and most of the time they don't....so I'm not really sure if it's operator error or not.  I can't get it to reliably time streach, as nothing happens unless I hold down the ALT key at the same time, but that only works about 10% of the time....even when the selected tools are seemingly correct.

I was wondering how long it would take Mike to post that