RexRed
Yes i left X2 on my machine and that is how I use V-vocal. I would throw myself in front of a bus without it. :)

You can run V-Vocal on X3 if you have an older copy of Sonar. With X3 you have the added bonus of RegionFX with it. Cheers.

RexRed
Alex, Melodyne is an industry fad... There is nothing "standard" about something that does not do at all what it's competitor does...

And V-Vocal is dead.
 

RexRed
V-vocal is NEVER perfect in tuning tracks but it is easy to go back and "sculpt" the pitch and fix the rough edges. Where in melodyne I did not know where to begin to bring the life back into my track.

 
There are lots of parameters and adjustments in Melodyne that can "sculpt" and fix rough edges. The problem with Melodyne is that it is so simple to use people avoid learning about how to make fine adjustments which does take training.
 
Cheers :)

Whoever owns V-vocal, If V-vocal has been "discontinued" then it should be an easy product for the Sonar people to purchase lock stock and barrel for pennies.
 
Blix I would search the Cakewalk forums. Before I posted this thread I did a search for V-vocal to see if anyone else liked it as I do and I noticed other people having problems with it and a certain DLL that if replaced may help fix your problem. I don't know because mine just worked when I installed X3 over X2.
 
If mine did not work I would definitely try that DLL fix and if that did not work I would uninstall everything and maybe just install X2 and X3 and see if that works.  
 
Cake Alex V-vocal is not dead in my X3 :) I use it more than any other plugin. 
 

RexRed
Whoever owns V-vocal, If V-vocal has been "discontinued" then it should be an easy product for the Sonar people to purchase lock stock and barrel for pennies.

 
That is just an assumption. One would assume that Roland would have given it to Cakewalk as part of the deal with Gibson if it was that simple. Even if Cakewalk kept it they would have to support it and keep developing it which I would assume be a mammoth/expensive task if done properly (not exactly simple software to develop), I suspect that is entirely incompatible with their focus right now. Regardless entirely out of their hands now so write to Roland :).

Development on V-Vocal stopped years ago. It is not to late to start looking for an acceptable alternative.

So then Alex it comes back to what I said, "politics"...
 
The Sonar developers are using Melodyne because they probably could not get V-vocal... Not necessarily because V-vocal is an inferior product. V-vocal has long been out of development yet it still outshines Melodyne in many VITAL ways. V-vocal is not an "industry standard" because it was proprietary to Sonar. If the Sonar people cannot get V-vocal then we are stuck with a piece of junk until Melodyne is developed and comes up to the level of V-vocal. I have confidence that can happen but it is a long ways off.
 
V-vocal may crash Sonar but it does not corrupt project files, I have reason to believe Melodyne does corrupt project files. That is a BIG bug.
 
Good luck with Melodyne, I just posted this thread to say I gave Melodyne another chance and was very disappointed.
 
Scook the problem is that there is no "acceptable alternative" to V-vocal

RexRed
So then Alex it comes back to what I said, "politics"...
 
The Sonar developers are using Melodyne because they probably could not get V-vocal... Not necessarily because V-vocal is an inferior product.

So you were there in the room at the time? :)
The fact is the plugin was one of the few plugins badged as "Roland", the other was "R-Mix" which has also disappeared. I can't even get that to work with X3E much as I try.
 
Anyway your opinion of course should not be looked down upon, but the rest of the industry disagrees and millions of copies of this "fad" have been bought by "amateurs" worldwide now, and is being used on album after album. The TV series Glee built an entire industry around it.
 
 

RexRed
 
Scook the problem is that there is no "acceptable alternative" to V-vocal

Stay away from bus routes.

RexRed
....  the problem is that there is no "acceptable alternative" ....

The last time I heard that phrase is when the federal reserve wanted trillions for a bailout... Or was it Scotty in Star Trek...
 
I don't see too many (if any) complaints about Melodyne in these forums nowadays, so any issue "corrupting" projects I suspect has completely disappeared, at least with X3E and the latest Melodyne update.

Okay CakeALex
 
Let's Examine this Melodyne program that millions of "professionals" are using.
 
Millions of them (professionals) also agree that Melodyne is "buggy". How buggy smarty pants? That even "Glee" is built around it?
 
I have Sonar X3 with the latest update, running on a quad core 64 bit Windows 7 machine.
 
My Sonar is a fairly stable installation. The other night I was giving Melodyne one more faithful try... 
 
I am an "amateur" too who was using Cakewalk for Dos probably before you were even born.
 
Melodyne locked up. Nothing unusual about that it has been locking up since I first tried the the pro stand alone plugin when it first became a "fad"...
 
The odd thing about this lock up is that I out of a knee jerk reaction hit ctrl S (That is the hotkey for saving the project) in case you did not know.
 
The project attempted to save and the progress bar moved across where the now time is. It got halfway across and froze...
 
The last time that happened it corrupted an entire file and I lost days of work. This prompted me to start a saving my projects periodically with new names long ago.
 
But it is behavior like that that corrupts projects.
 
I don't care if there are ten million people using Melodyne it is a fad, just like there at ten million views on twerking videos BUT when a video is posted on YouTube that a trillion dollars had gone "missing" at the federal reserve and there are only a few thousand people who even care to watch it. Deal with it...