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  • The End of V-Vocal? (p.22)
2014/07/16 21:47:18
backwoods
I wonder whatever became of the Vintage Channel guy.

It's something that has always worried me about niche companies- frequently only a couple of people, and only one person who knows what makes the product tick. What happens to the consumer when that main guy keels over or goes loco or whatever?

There are a lot of plugin companies I can imagine going the same way.
2014/07/16 23:02:26
Ruben
SF_Green
 
Glad to see I'm not the only one who loved the VC-64.  Actually I liked all the Kjaerhus plugs I tried.  I have the Golden Modulator plus the free suite too.  Wish I had picked up more before he vanished!  Hope you are able to track him down sometime and get the VC-64 code.



 
I've not really delved into VC-64 although it is interesting, and of course Kjaerhus has a good reputation. But I've always wondered something about VC-64...
 
Why is it called VC-64 when it's only 32-bit? 
2014/07/16 23:11:42
scook
64bit internal data path
2014/07/18 00:00:04
RexRed
Tried Melodyne essential AGAIN for a while. I keep thinking I can do what i need with it and just keep getting disappointed. I learned to stretch notes in it but there are only tiny ruler lines up top and the boxes feature is practically useless. Back to V-vocal.
 
I have a feeling i would spend 600+ dollars (I could buy a new PC for that price) on the Editor version and still be just as disappointed and end up using v-vocal. No, I will wait till the program surpasses V-vocal in the basic editing features.
 
2014/07/18 00:31:49
backwoods
Melodyne editor is less than half of $600 at audio deluxe. Where do you get you bizarre ideas from rexred?
2014/07/18 00:39:07
Splat
If you spent more time learning and less complaining you could get somewhere:

Time Grid Overview: http://youtu.be/JtIbhSIH33c

There are also features around these 'boxes' that you haven't clearly come across yet, melodyne is a product you need to sit down and learn systematically, please don't expect the 'get it' by trial and error. If you do that you will get the basics but not great results because you would have only glossed over 10% of the features. I spent two days learning it myself. Groove 3 tutorials for instance last 4 hours, but I spent another 12 practicing.

If you don't have the time to learn it that's fine, but that's your issue if so.
2014/07/18 01:48:55
RexRed
backwoods
Melodyne editor is less than half of $600 at audio deluxe. Where do you get you bizarre ideas from rexred?

Here is where I got that bizarre idea...
 
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10684780321099078610?
 
$569 online

 
Not sure what the "studio bundle" is but... 
 
Read the details and it gives no extra info...
2014/07/18 02:08:27
RexRed
CakeAlexS
If you spent more time learning and less complaining you could get somewhere:

Time Grid Overview: http://youtu.be/JtIbhSIH33c

There are also features around these 'boxes' that you haven't clearly come across yet, melodyne is a product you need to sit down and learn systematically, please don't expect the 'get it' by trial and error. If you do that you will get the basics but not great results because you would have only glossed over 10% of the features. I spent two days learning it myself. Groove 3 tutorials for instance last 4 hours, but I spent another 12 practicing.

If you don't have the time to learn it that's fine, but that's your issue if so.

If I spent less time watching videos that don't give me a solution...
 
What good are ruler lines up top when the blobs are halfway down the page? 
 
That was my criticism if you go back and actually read my last complaint, I saw the stubby littler ruler lines it takes about ten minutes to go through every drop down menu in Melodyne.... The ruler lines do not go vertically down the page so what good are they?
 
Neither do they go down the page in essential nor in the editor version...
 
It as useless as being a carpenter and leaving your tape measure at home...
 
I have spent much more than two days in Melodyne and I also spent over 6 hours in it the other night. The boxes are cumbersome and far from intuitive.
 
In v-vocal I don't need to "split notes" I can just move and sculpt them where I want them.
 
In V-Vocal I can surgically erase any edits made on a certain wave and go back to the original at any time "within the app" where is that in Melodyne? I had to undo an entire wave of edits because I was in a corner and could not get melodyne to "not" edit a particular note incorrectly.
2014/07/18 02:10:03
dubdisciple
Not sure offhand what is included in the bundle too, but it seems odd you assumed that a bundle was the priced of one item without bothering to look up the price of the "non-bundle" version.  You specifically mentioned Editor, a single product and then used a price quote for a "bundle". It sounds like you were simply trying to exaggerate and consciously chose a higher price point to prove your point.  For the record, melodyne editor is usually about $349, but since you would be upgrading it would be more like $279.  Odds are you would find it on sale for even less.  I know they were offering Editor for $150 for SOnar users to upgrade at one point , which is a far cry from $600.
2014/07/18 02:12:29
dubdisciple
I hope the team that created Vvcoal gets to see RexRed's post.  i am sure they will appreciate someone so fanatically devoted to their product.  I seriously think he should go to Roland's forum and post this stuff.  it may make their day
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