I wouldn't be so hard on Roland. Their expertise is as a hardware company, and of course Cakewalk is software, and IMHO the two never quite synched up the way it was hoped they would. During the acquisition Roland was straightforward in their dealings, and provided support on several levels during the transition.
 

Anderton
I wouldn't be so hard on Roland. Their expertise is as a hardware company, and of course Cakewalk is software, and IMHO the two never quite synched up the way it was hoped they would. During the acquisition Roland was straightforward in their dealings, and provided support on several levels during the transition.
 

Sorry if it sounded harsh. My analogy may sound negative but I meant it more as matter of fact.

This thread has illuminati all over it.

Anderton
...Editor is a paid upgrade (typically $150)...

Apparently not at present. This offer has expired. There is a $149 upgrade to Assistant but not to Ediror.

It is not a standing offer, although it may reprise near year end. When registering Essential, Celemony provides a 10 day upgrade window. I know several users let the upgrade period lapse and still managed to get the discount by contacting Celemony asking them to honor the price.

I have to say I am disappointed with Melodyne. I was so excited to finally get a built-in tool that would help do some quick vocal harmonies, but it doesn't do a very good job, have to finalise in V-Vocal. I would have preferred if they had just tweaked V-vocal to do the few good bits of Melodyne.
 
I only have the version that comes with X3, but then X3 cost enough already.
 
I accept that the full version may be much better, but I find the manipulation of the waveforms is not as good as V-Vocal, it also seems to do strange things like moving other notes around elsewhere in the bar when I change a note. I would have thought with snap to scale off I should be able to put any note anywhere I want.
 
Again maybe its me, but why cant I put the play marker where I want in the Melodyne window? It sometimes jumps to where I click, but mostly doesn't, so I have to move it in the track window.
 
I think I can answer my own question - the most likely answer is that the full version is better and I should read up. Then my reply is I have not had to read a single thing to get very good results from V-Vocal, lazy I know, but I hate wasting time if the interface can be intuitive.
 
 

frontier-ddmusic
I find the manipulation of the waveforms is not as good as V-Vocal, it also seems to do strange things like moving other notes around elsewhere in the bar when I change a note. I would have thought with snap to scale off I should be able to put any note anywhere I want.

 
Most of the time notes are joined together by default so that if for example you change the attack of one note, the decay will lengthen to fill in the gap. However, you can split between notes, and even split within the note itself (which can be very useful with some of the tools in Editor). 
 

Why cant I put the play marker where I want in the Melodyne window?

 
You can, click just above the timeline in Melodyne and you can place the play marker anywhere you want.
 
 
I think I can answer my own question - the most likely answer is that the full version is better and I should read up. Then my reply is I have not had to read a single thing to get very good results from V-Vocal, lazy I know, but I hate wasting time if the interface can be intuitive.
 
 

slumbermachine
This thread has illuminati all over it.

Excellent distraction (time to call the mothership ...)...

Has anyone checked out Zplane Vielklang 2 yet?
 
The SOS reviewer seemed to like it a lot, and at £106.28 for the full version seems like a no-brainer
 
http://www.soundonsound.c...jul14/articles/vk2.htm

Thanks for taking the time to explain, I will play a bit more, I thought I had tried clicking just about everywhere for the play marker. It seems to work once then not again, maybe a bug.

The notes jump scale. If I set snap to scale and then move it all up, some don't sound right, so there are just a few individual notes in the piece I want to move, so I grab one and drag it up or down and another note further along jumps up or down, usually by quite a few steps. Try to put it back and the one I moved jumps. Turn off snap to scale and it still does it. Also there seems to be no undo, no curl z either. So I can't get it back to how it was. Once it has screwed up the clip I have to exit and remove the edit.

Everyone seem to love Melodyne, I'll just have to try harder I guess