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2014/07/11 04:26:12
John T
Ah, the magic of the block feature.
 
 
2014/07/11 04:26:03
John T
Ah, the magic of the block feature.
 
 
2014/07/11 05:15:22
RexRed
I just though I might add that i have watched the melodyne videos on YouTube I watched every one of them over nearly two years ago and i watched some of them recently and realized not much had changed. Melodyne does have some nice features as I said but those features are not the ones I use often. 
 
Wave to midi is an excellent feature that i may enjoy using from time to time, the ability to break chords into notes is a good feature I have been able to take out unwanted noises in sound but it only works about 25% of the time. The harmony feature is nice too but I sing my own harmonies so that is also not something I need. So that really only gives melodyne one feature, the wave to midi that I might use in a blue moon.
 
It is like buying car because it has a nice radio but it has no tires... As long as the radio works it is fine though.
 
Anybody here use Melodyne?
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Anybody-here-use-Melodyne-m606457.aspx
 
The twerkers come in and say how great melodyne is even if it does not work well... Blind loyalty does not good music make. 
Here is what recording "professionals" have to say about melodyne.
Then "tmrpros" comes into the discussion and says this:
 
Yes, Melodyne sucks...

...So does its Canadian Distributor for American distribution...

Use V-Vocal...



You asked...  
 
Comment:
Suddenly the melodyne twerkers are left dumbfounded.
 
Silence is golden
2014/07/11 06:14:52
jb101
Has anyone else noticed that the Sat Knob thread has gone quiet?

I use Melodyne and VVocal. Right tool for the right job.

Neither "suck".
2014/07/11 06:28:14
John T
jb101
Has anyone else noticed that the Sat Knob thread has gone quiet?



Yes. Though I don't think this is LA2A under a different name. Sadly, there are numerous people like this.
2014/07/11 06:29:25
John T
With any luck, it's just a fad.
2014/07/11 07:06:44
Grem
John T
With any luck, it's just a fad.


That's a good one!
2014/07/11 07:10:13
jb101
John T
jb101
Has anyone else noticed that the Sat Knob thread has gone quiet?



Yes. Though I don't think this is LA2A under a different name. Sadly, there are numerous people like this.




Maybe they take it in turns..
 
Perhaps, as you say, it's just a fad.
2014/07/11 07:59:12
GIM Productions
Hi all i m in studio and i had not read all posts but i m in love with V Vocal for its streching ability especially.
i often use on bass and sax track too.
For me is awesome tool.
Greetings
2014/07/11 08:37:58
Sanderxpander
I say use what works for you. V-Vocal still works and if you want it back in later versions it's between Cakewalk and Roland to work it out. Personally I'm much happier with Melodyne.

One thing that jumped out at me was that the OP said he "tuned" an entire take with both Melodyne and V-Vocal and then A/Bd them, preferring the V-Vocal version. It's a little unclear what he did exactly but from the phrasing I would assume he did a select-all and correct pitch operation. I would definitely not recommend this approach and it would definitely sound more processed than V-Vocal, because the latter (like autotune) has a "delay" so that it mostly fixes the sustain portion of the notes, whereas Melodyne simply centers the pitch of an entire blob on the closest note. This is a terrible misuse of Melodyne if going for realistic results though. I will take a properly manually Melodyned take over a V-Vocal one (auto or manual) 100 percent of the time.

As for Melodyne being buggy, I've personally had some instabilities (none clearly reproduceable) that I find hard to accept and I believe should be fixed (due to the ease of integration and the importance of vocal editing in any DAW), but none nearly as bad as with V-Vocal.

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