chuckebaby
 
are you a "Loyal" Sonar ASIO4ALL user ?

LOL!!!

Cactus Music
 
That's interesting about the Stienberg driver. I have Wave Lab7 and Cubase 7LE on my DAW and I don't believe that has ever happened. I guess I could take a look, but I've certainly never had issues with drivers and I swap out between the Tascam and the Scarlett from time to time.
 I do have a Stienberg ASIO driver on my live recording laptop as I was in a band and we bought a Yamaha mixer with stereo USB. It worked great along side my Tascam us1641 in WDM mode I had 16 channels available and recorded a couple of shows without issue. 

Just to be clear, this was a generic ASIO driver provided by their DAW installer, not a hardware device.  So I ripped out all of the SteinBUG stuff, deleted aud.ini from Sonar, and rebooted.  Then reinstalled Cubase 9 Elements, making sure to unselect the driver install!
 
This particular generic driver seems to override my real ASIO driver in some way, where I could not configure my real driver in Sonar.  I could select the ASIO driver mode in prefs, but the playback and recording timing master were all blank.
 
So just a heads up, if you ever encounter this issue, it is easily resolved by following the steps outlined above.

Cactus Music
And the winner is--------Asio4all! 
 
OK,   I installed ASIO4all to this laptop I use at work and have been running Home Studio under WASAPI exclusive for a few months. 
So here you go, Asio4all wins the loopback test. It is very close to right on which boils down to you could use it for overdubing. 
I think the reason it works is it activates the offset controls and reports the latency properly. In all other modes there is no offset adjustment available. I am going to give it a run and see how it goes over the next few weeks. I noted what Sonar was reporting in each mode for latency. Most where all 10 ms which was what the buffer showed. Only Asio4all showed the RTL which was 30 ms. So there you go all you nay-sayers ( me sort of included) 
 

Hey Johnny, that sure is an interesting performance test.  
 
But I will add that I installed Platinum and most of my soft synths on my cheap Acer laptop with ASIO4ALL, and they run great.  I can stack em up until I run out of RAM (only 4GB) and they run fine.  But this laptop is really just a portable office, so I'm not trying to make a DAW out of it or anything.  I just wanted to see if I could play with my toys on it.
 
I must have gotten lucky with this laptop, because it passes LatencyMon with flying colors, even though it's only got a mobile dual core 4th gen i5 CPU and a slow 5400rpm HDD.

WASAPI vs. ASIO4ALL now if death were an option..........

kitekrazy1
WASAPI vs. ASIO4ALL now if death were an option..........

So I'm guessing that reply marks you in the knee-jerk section.

abacab

kitekrazy1
WASAPI vs. ASIO4ALL now if death were an option..........

So I'm guessing that reply marks you in the knee-jerk section.

Nope. Just as long as I'm not forced into those choices. Supposedly those expensive Linx cards do not have ASIO drivers.
 
 I was actually forced into that situation when Sonar and Reason refused to accept my Terratec EWX2496 drivers. The card was discontinued and all they had was beta drivers for Vista 64.  So my other option was my iTrack Solo. I replaced it with a Steinberg UR44.  Problem solved. That was an awesome card back in its day. 
 
 Hopefully Windows will make a driver that will equal Mac's AU.

Despite the so called common practice is to dissuade people from using ASIO4ALL, under the right circumstance it is a very good option.
From one of the Sonar data collection reports published in the ezine s for a while I think onboard audio and ASIO4ALL were the most commonly used audio device and driver combination. If I can find it I'll come back to this post and update with a link.

I remember something like that.  That's either a lot of laptop users or people who still think an audio device is the least important feature of using a DAW.

It was in the 2016 August ezine. What was the most popular audio output? ASIO4ALL. Who'd a thunk it?

chuckebaby
are you a "Loyal" Sonar ASIO4ALL user ?