2016/07/13 18:25:19
elsongs
Anyone here use a Presonus Studio 192 or Studio 192 Mobile? Thinking of getting either as my next audio interface and want to know if it plays nice with Sonar.
 
 
2016/07/13 19:21:40
TheMaartian
If you are considering spending that kind of money, I would highly recommend that you save $300 and get a Tascam US-20x20 instead. It's as capable, and is more stable.
 
When I was getting back into music a couple of years ago, I started with PreSonus Studio One and an AudioBox 44VSL. I'm now using SONAR with a Tascam US-16x16. Not going back. I will not support a company that continually drops support for existing, relatively new, still being actively marketed products and then completely ignores their customers complaints. I have been banned from the PreSonus forum for the simple sin of complaining online about their complete silence. So, they effectively shut me up...on their forum, and their forum only.
 
I don't care how good the Studio 192 might be. There is no guarantee that they will respond to you when (not if) you have a problem.
 
And their forum is pretty much useless...just a dump bucket for complaints and questions...and stock boiler room answers ("Have you optimized your PC for audio?") with no follow-up.
2016/07/13 19:29:29
Amicus717
I've never used them, but FWIW I looked at those interfaces very briefly when I was shopping for an upgraded system. However, I quickly dropped the PreSonus units from consideration. The reviews, both professional and on forums, spoke about latency issues, driver stability issues and the lack of advantage offered by USB3. My understanding is that they have very nice converters, and some pretty nice features -- and they intergrate really well with Studio One -- but need some time for the drivers to mature.
 
I don't know how well they intergrate Sonar, and I'd also like to hear from someone who's tried them. But the initial wave of reviews were deal-breakers for me.
 
 
 
 
2016/07/13 20:28:26
TheMaartian
Amicus717
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My understanding is that they have very nice converters, and some pretty nice features -- and they intergrate really well with Studio One -- but need some time for the drivers to mature.
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My point is that just seems to never happen with PreSonus audio interface drivers.
 
For example, the latest VSL drivers (v1.3 for 22, 44, 1818) were buggy under Win7, with numerous posts from impacted users (me being one of them) in their forum attesting to the fact. Then Win10 came along, and the driver failed completely on my DAW. PreSonus' update? Well, there was one. To the online description of the driver (still v1.3), claiming Win10 compatibility. Hey, it works for somebody somewhere. Can you tell I **** (dislike) these guys? And they're still actively selling the VSL devices. Shame on them.
 
It seems like they only have one driver writer, and when they release new hardware, off (s)he goes into the new blue yonder.
2016/07/13 21:25:35
Jeff Evans
If you want an interface that really sounds great, is super stable and has great drivers and very low latency consider an RME model. They are excellent. I think the RME out performs the Presonus interface latency wise.
 
I am not sure about the new 192 Mobile though. I think it got a good review. Maybe they have improved things in that model.
2016/07/13 22:04:16
wst3
I have an 1818VSL, it is a really solid interface, and it is working just fine for me - Sonar Plat and Studio One V3, all under Win10. That does not mean it will work for you, but at least you know it can work...
 
I  picked up an Apollo Twin USB pretty much as soon as they released it, and that is my main interface now.  But I have no complaints about the 1818VSL, and in fact it is still in the rack for those times when I need more inputs (until such time as I can add a converter that supports S/MUX or an Apollo rack!)

My impression (no scientific proof) is that the Apollo sounds different than the VSL, and I might even say better, but it is not a huge difference.
 
I think the RME sounds every bit as good as the Apollo Twin, and their drivers are the stuff of legend.
 
I also auditioned the Studio 192 and I thought it probably had a slight edge over the VSL, but it wasn't as dramatic, certainly not enough to justify that upgrade.
2016/07/13 23:10:53
Amicus717
 
 
Can you tell I **** (dislike) these guys? And they're still actively selling the VSL devices. Shame on them.
 


I sense a wee bit of disenchantment, there. :) I have heard similar stories about their driver support and early abandonment of hardware. I briefly tried out Studio One (which was nice enough, but didn't offer me anything Sonar didn't already offer me), but I did not end up buying it -- and Presonus' reputation was part of the reason that I didn't.
 
As for the OP, I have to echo what was suggested in the thread -- consider an RME interface. I bought my first one a few months ago (a used Babyface unit), and I'm now a total believer. They are as good as their reputation. It is the best interface I've ever owned, and works like a dream with Sonar.
 
 
2016/07/14 06:21:04
fireberd
I tried a Studio 192.  Their "auto setup" function resulted in 22ms latency.  I was able to manually reduce it but not close to the MOTU 896mk3 hybrid that I ultimately wound up with. 
 
The 192 "died" on me the second day I had it. It would not power off (except by unplugging it from AC power). 
2016/07/14 06:48:21
elsongs
TheMaartian
If you are considering spending that kind of money, I would highly recommend that you save $300 and get a Tascam US-20x20 instead. It's as capable, and is more stable.



Thanks, I never heard of that Tascam unit before, the price is certainly right. I was just about to order it tonight -- but I've been reading reports of high latency. Being that I use softsynths regularly, this is kind of distressing to me.
 
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