• SONAR
  • Komplete Kontrol Keyboard (p.2)
2017/03/21 13:45:23
JohanSebatianGremlin
dcumpian
 
For NKS presets, yes you would have to modify them. 

Yeah, that seems like quite an oversight.
 
'Hey boss, I'm setting up all the controller mappings for the presets to all our instruments. You wants I should make a knob control volume level for each preset map?'
 
'Are you crazy? Who in their right mind would want to use a controller keyboard to change the volume on a sound? Nope just make sure you have a knob mapped to envelope 3 decay and a knob for Osc 4 fine tune and call it good. If they're goofy enough to want something as rarely accessed as volume level, make it so they have to go in and set that up themselves for each preset.
'
2017/03/21 14:44:24
azslow3
I do not have the board, but from NI advert:

A convenient shortcut now lets you control the master volume of the KOMPLETE KONTROL software from your S-Series keyboard.

 
2017/03/21 14:55:01
dcumpian
azslow3
I do not have the board, but from NI advert:

A convenient shortcut now lets you control the master volume of the KOMPLETE KONTROL software from your S-Series keyboard.

 



Must be in one of the latest updates.
 
Dan
2017/03/23 00:25:16
filtersweep
dcumpian
azslow3
I do not have the board, but from NI advert:

A convenient shortcut now lets you control the master volume of the KOMPLETE KONTROL software from your S-Series keyboard.

 



Must be in one of the latest updates.
 
Dan




So that is actually in version 1.1 of the software according to the NI site. But I can't find anywhere that actually explains what the shortcut is.
2017/03/23 12:29:01
dcumpian
filtersweep
dcumpian
azslow3
I do not have the board, but from NI advert:

A convenient shortcut now lets you control the master volume of the KOMPLETE KONTROL software from your S-Series keyboard.

 



Must be in one of the latest updates.
 
Dan




So that is actually in version 1.1 of the software according to the NI site. But I can't find anywhere that actually explains what the shortcut is.




From the manual:
 

Volume Control and Meter
  • Lets you adjust the overall output volume of KOMPLETE KONTROL. The meter shows the current peak level of the output signal. You can also control the output volume of the active KOMPLETE KONTROL instance from the keyboard by pressing SHIFT and simultaneously turning the BROWSE encoder. This will adjust the output volume in0.5dB increments from -30dB to +10dB. Below -30dB, the keyboard’s volume control is exponentially scaled and quickly lowers the output signal to complete silence.
 
Regards,
Dan
2017/03/24 11:30:28
cyberzip
Interesting thread, as I just got a Komplete Kontrol S49! (I got it primarily for the great Fatar keybead, not the software stuff...)

A few questions:
  1. What is AzCtrl? Is it complex to setup?
  2. Could we somehow petition Cakewalk to implement support for Komplete Kontrol in Sonar for better integration?
I believe good hardware support is a good step for a DAW to help increase market share!
 
Edit for OP: I might add that so far I've used my S49 as a regular MIDI controller with just MIDI out - and it works great! Lovely feel of the keys, the knobs work well with standard midi learn features in virtual instruments... and the aftertouch is awesome! (A little difficult to control in a smooth way maybe, but the aftertouch is still a lot better than the other MIDI controllers I've tried!)
2017/03/24 12:27:50
dcumpian
cyberzip
  1. What is AzCtrl? Is it complex to setup?
  2. Could we somehow petition Cakewalk to implement support for Komplete Kontrol in Sonar for better integration?



AzCtrl is a small piece of software that acts as an interface between many different controllers and Sonar.
 
Follow this thread to the end and grab the preset in the second to the last message. Then read the thread to understand how to set it up. It's not difficult at all, but it helps if you've setup a control surface before in Sonar.
 
http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,329.0.html
 
As to petitioning, the only integration that is missing is for the controller to be aware when you switch tracks in Sonar. That's only important when using the Komplete Kontrol software as a VST host in Sonar. As a regular midi controller, there are no issues. The recommended workaround by NI is to use the track switcher. It's a bit clunky, but it does work just fine.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2017/03/24 13:07:36
azslow3
As to petitioning...
There is one technical feature required from Sonar side to allow AZ Controller implement track switching with corresponding automatic Komplete Kontrol selection: a way to find to which synth (if any) particular track belong.
 
I mean AZ Controller can switch tracks. But once some particular track is selected, in other DAWs (with the "integration") either corresponding Komplete Kontrol instance is selected and the board is switched to Komplete mode or the board is switched to MIDI mode. There is currently no way to reliably do this in Sonar.
 
PS. AZ Controller is "small" in binary size only... it is one of the most complicated plug-ins you can meet in Sonar 
 
2017/03/24 13:23:39
Markubl2
This is an interesting topic to me, and I have a related question.  I have a Roland FA-08 which has a DAW control mode.  I have it set up in Sonar and it works, well, kind of.  Most functions (play, stop, record, pad buttons, etc.) work well;  however, some functions, like the rotary knobs, do not work at all.  I have map any midi messages that I want to those know, but I don't really know what Sonar is expecting.  Is there some list somewhere that details what Sonar expects?  Would Azslow's utility work for this?
2017/03/24 15:18:17
azslow3
It is better to start separate topic, FA-08 is not a Komplete Kontrol Keyboard
 
Here I will answer short: AZ Controller support any known MIDI messages, other Surface controllers support a subset, Sonar "Remote control" support even smaller subset. To see either hardware control is really sending something, try to record it into midi track and use "Even view" or use AZ Controller.
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