azslow3
It is better to start separate topic, FA-08 is not a Komplete Kontrol Keyboard

 
I know, I just thought it was related enough.  :)
 
I can see in Midi OX that it is actually sending, I've just never followed up enough with it.  When I get some more time, I'll created another topic and really dig into it.  I have enough trouble just learning basic Sonar functionality.

 




From the manual:
 

Volume Control and Meter

• Lets you adjust the overall output volume of KOMPLETE KONTROL. The meter shows the current peak level of the output signal. You can also control the output volume of the active KOMPLETE KONTROL instance from the keyboard by pressing SHIFT and simultaneously turning the BROWSE encoder. This will adjust the output volume in0.5dB increments from -30dB to +10dB. Below -30dB, the keyboard’s volume control is exponentially scaled and quickly lowers the output signal to complete silence.

 
Regards,
Dan




Now that you have pointed it out, I vaguely remember trying that "shortcut". Thing is, you need two hands to turn down the volume. Will try again though. If the volume fxn sticks to the browser knob once it has been turned, then it isnt so inconvenient. If it immediately goes back to browser fxn, then it isnt so great a shortcut. I usually have to be playing something w one hand while adjusting to the right volume to get it where I want.
 
 

filtersweep
Now that you have pointed it out, I vaguely remember trying that "shortcut". Thing is, you need two hands to turn down the volume. Will try again though. If the volume fxn sticks to the browser knob once it has been turned, then it isnt so inconvenient. If it immediately goes back to browser fxn, then it isnt so great a shortcut. I usually have to be playing something w one hand while adjusting to the right volume to get it where I want.
 

To be honest, I never use it. I adjust it within Kontakt, Play or the VSTi synth itself. So many VSTi's respond to "Volume" differently that it is just simpler to make the adjustment once and move on.
 
Dan

dcumpian
 
To be honest, I never use it. I adjust it within Kontakt, Play or the VSTi synth itself. So many VSTi's respond to "Volume" differently that it is just simpler to make the adjustment once and move on.

Respond to volume differently? How do you mean? I have a fader on my keyboard that always transmits controller 7. About 90% of the plugins I load are setup with controller 7 mapped to volume right out of the box so my volume fader controls well... volume exactly as you'd expect; up=louder, down=quieter. The other 10% seem to have no controller mapped to volume when you first load the instance. In those cases, I right click the volume control in the plugin window and click learn. Then I move my volume fader and we're done. Works perfect whenever I work on that project from that moment forward.
 
There are probably ways to make most of those other 10% mapped for volume automatically but I've never dug in and looked because its quick and easy enough to map volume when I first load the instance.
 
But all that being said, having that one controller mapped to volume all the time is key to making this work. The shift/browser knob combo is better than nothing. But as has been said, it takes two hands which leaves zero hands left over for making sound while adjusting volume. Damper pedal would probably help a lot in most cases though. And honestly everything else on these boards look great so I'm still thinking one of these could be in my future.
 
Dan, what's your take on the touch pad pitch/mod wheels? 

JohanSebatianGremlin

dcumpian
 
To be honest, I never use it. I adjust it within Kontakt, Play or the VSTi synth itself. So many VSTi's respond to "Volume" differently that it is just simpler to make the adjustment once and move on.

Respond to volume differently? How do you mean? I have a fader on my keyboard that always transmits controller 7. About 90% of the plugins I load are setup with controller 7 mapped to volume right out of the box so my volume fader controls well... volume exactly as you'd expect; up=louder, down=quieter. The other 10% seem to have no controller mapped to volume when you first load the instance. In those cases, I right click the volume control in the plugin window and click learn. Then I move my volume fader and we're done. Works perfect whenever I work on that project from that moment forward.
 
There are probably ways to make most of those other 10% mapped for volume automatically but I've never dug in and looked because its quick and easy enough to map volume when I first load the instance.
 
But all that being said, having that one controller mapped to volume all the time is key to making this work. The shift/browser knob combo is better than nothing. But as has been said, it takes two hands which leaves zero hands left over for making sound while adjusting volume. Damper pedal would probably help a lot in most cases though. And honestly everything else on these boards look great so I'm still thinking one of these could be in my future.
 
Dan, what's your take on the touch pad pitch/mod wheels? 

Some Play instruments respond to CC 1, while Aria use a combination of 1, 2, 10 and 11. Kontakt is generally unresponsive to CC 7, though you can map it, but it can be overridden by each individual library. I have several synths that don't respond to CC7 at all. First thing I do is adjust the VST directly. In Kontakt, each library gets it's own output. I find it easier that way.
 
The pitch bend/mod "wheel" pads are awesome, and I find that I can get very fine control and can even do things that are impossible with a standard mod wheel. Plus, the KK software includes options to change how they respond, and even automate.
 
Regards,
Dan

dcumpian
Kontakt is generally unresponsive to CC 7, though you can map it, but it can be overridden by each individual library. 

Hmmm... I can't ever remember having an issue with CC 7 in any Kontakt library. C'est la vie when it comes to softsynths I suppose.

JohanSebatianGremlin

dcumpian
 
...And honestly everything else on these boards look great so I'm still thinking one of these could be in my future.
 
 

Right. There is so much to recommend these boards that the volume thing isn't really a big deal. I generally just control in the plug-in, though some vsti do have volume conveniently mapped to a first page slider.