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  • Where's the track phase reverse (polarity) button in SONAR Platinum? (p.2)
2017/03/26 17:12:51
brundlefly
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'Phase Shift' is commonly understood to mean a time shift. 'Phase Inversion' is commonly understood to mean a polarity reversal with no time shift.
2017/03/26 17:56:53
gustabo
Ok, ok, ok, It's the button that when you put your mouse over it, you get a mouseover popup that says "Phase: (whatever state it's in)" such as "Phase: Normal" or "Phase: Inverted"
2017/03/27 00:02:12
mettelus
It is impossible to null a non-symmetrical wave form with a shift in time (and how would the switch determine its frequency anyway?)... This is actually the design of all time-based delay effects (shifting the same wave form to the right/left on the x-axis).
 
The only way to null a signal by the introduction onto itself is by reversing the polarity (flipping the signal on the X-axis) with the same amplitude for both.
 
It is hard to determine the logic of some naming conventions, but futile to worry about it... I still park on a driveway and drive on a parkway.
2017/03/27 02:52:54
mettelus
I do not think that folks are disputing the mislabeling. Phase inversion is really only applicable to "inversion of a symmetric periodic" waveform (as stated above), with the key terms being symmetric and periodic. A real-world application is in AC currents where these can lead to catastrophic damage to breakers by connecting AC buses out of phase (which goes way beyond simple inversion). In an audio realm, "symmetric and periodic" is pretty much N/A, but can be "simulated" via polarity inversion, which does not depends on the "symmetric and periodic" in any way.
 
In fact, if you *do* have a symmetric, periodic waveform (the only wave form you can easily phase invert anyway), phase inversion and polarity inversion are one and the same - polarity inversion is just a little broader, not dependent on signal, and super easy to accomplish. The application just has different meaning depending on the usage.
2017/03/27 10:29:37
chuckebaby
The OP's first post: Hey does anyone know where the phase button is ?
Our response: m1 and m2 , the equation is: where G is the gravitational constant (6.67E-11 m3 s-2 kg-1), r is the distance between the two objects, and F is the magnitude of the force between the objects.
 
 

2017/03/27 16:47:04
DaveMichel
Thanks, everybody, for the fun discussion. SONAR 7 had the polarity button (that's how I'll refer to it) on each track. Platinum now has it in the Inspectors.
 
Now we can discuss meter weighting (on another thread)? 
 
Dave
2017/03/27 22:22:57
mudgel
You must have the tracks narrowed.

In the console menus select Strips >Widen all strips and you'll find each channel has its own Phase button
2017/03/28 12:15:04
bitflipper
chuckebaby
The OP's first post: Hey does anyone know where the phase button is ?
Our response: m1 and m2 , the equation is: where G is the gravitational constant (6.67E-11 m3 s-2 kg-1), r is the distance between the two objects, and F is the magnitude of the force between the objects.
 
 



Best post of the day, Chuck.
2017/03/28 12:24:23
chuckebaby
bitflipper
chuckebaby
The OP's first post: Hey does anyone know where the phase button is ?
Our response: m1 and m2 , the equation is: where G is the gravitational constant (6.67E-11 m3 s-2 kg-1), r is the distance between the two objects, and F is the magnitude of the force between the objects.
 
 



Best post of the day, Chuck.


ahhhh Im a sucker for good humor . Its what makes this world a better place.
 
But when it comes down to it, I learn so much from on these forums.
I owe a huge debt of gratitude to users like you and others who have taught me so much over the years.
So as much as I love to joke around, I am very grateful.
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