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2017/03/28 05:29:05
OldNick
OK thanks. I worked out/remembered the bit about just typing in the number.
 
I am willing to bet that finding how CC#s are implemented does not even get a mention in half the synths these days. :(
 
If the synth doesn't respond as standard to a CC, can MIDI Learn override that? I am trying to work out how ML works, but I would like to know how powerful it can be in that regard.
 
Thanks again
 
 
2017/03/28 05:44:16
scook
The MIDI implementation often is not detailed in software documentation the way it was in hardware because the approaches vary. Some plug-ins are GM compliant. Some plug-ins use MIDI learn to bind CC to functions. Some use set up screens often referred to as a modulation matrix. Some don't mess with CC at all leaving it up the the DAW and plug-in automation. Plug-in automation in DAWs may be controlled by MIDI in one way or another. Some use a combination of methods.
2017/03/28 06:01:55
OldNick
Thanks man! Wow! A bit Wild West Frontier stuff....every man for himself.
 
Yeah I have just now played with the MIDI Matrix in Dim Pro and had some encouraging results. It seems that there at least I can override the standard MIDI CC# responses, but there is a very limited choice of mappings.
2017/03/28 06:15:00
promidi
According to page 116 of the user guide for Rapture Pro:

The following controllers are hard-wired:
• CC7 = Volume
• CC11 = Expression
• CC64 = Sustain (can be enabled/disabled per-Element using display control)
• CC66 = Sostenuto (can be enabled/disabled per-Element using display control)
• CC73 = Global Amplitude Attack
• CC72 = Global Amplitude Release
2017/03/28 06:27:35
scook
Yes, that is a carry over from DPro. DPro supports a several CC mapping methods including MIDI learn, a modulation matrix and automation.
2017/03/28 10:32:30
OldNick
promidi
According to page 116 of the user guide for Rapture Pro:

The following controllers are hard-wired:
• CC7 = Volume
• CC11 = Expression
• CC64 = Sustain (can be enabled/disabled per-Element using display control)
• CC66 = Sostenuto (can be enabled/disabled per-Element using display control)
• CC73 = Global Amplitude Attack
• CC72 = Global Amplitude Release


OK. Thanks. Interestingly I can override CC#73 in Dim Pro. I have always assumed their architectures were pretty much the same.
2017/03/28 10:35:45
OldNick
scook
Yes, that is a carry over from DPro. DPro supports a several CC mapping methods including MIDI learn, a modulation matrix and automation.

 
I need to chcek out MIDI learn, but so far everything I am reading refers to control surfaces. I have automatyion a lot, but it does not suit my need to work on say, 20 note events in a glissando.
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