• SONAR
  • SONAR OS X Alpha (p.2)
2016/11/11 15:12:15
tzzsmk
me, I set up made my PC a hackintosh (while keeping Win7 and other drives intact) some time ago,
and to be honest I'm seriously thinking just about moving onto Reaper, because, although I really do like Sonar, I figured out of all the additional cool things it offers, I need just a few, but there are also more than a few major hiccups, which cannot be easily fixed as it would require rewriting certain things from scratch (which btw is one of reasons Sonar base installer is about 450MB while Reaper is about 11MB
(just to be clear, I'm not bashing on Cakewalk dev team, I do fully appreciate the work they've been doing, it's just that I know things around programming and it makes me gloomy to realize nowadays things can be coded much more efficiently and that's where AAA software solutions cannot easily keep up)
2016/11/14 18:27:15
mikey
John
It seems to me that the Mac crowd have waited a long time to get even a maybe. Waiting a little longer doesn't seem unreasonable. Let the Bakers do their thing and I have no doubt it will be worth it.




 
Agreed, but 2 seconds saying "its coming SOON and looks good" from those same bakers wouldn't hurt either.
2016/11/14 18:47:42
John
Agreed. Sometimes a little communication goes a long way. 
2016/11/14 20:28:15
...wicked
John
Digital performer was a huge disappointment when they ported it to Windows. 



Is this true John? What were the problems? I've always admired Digital Performer from afar.
2016/11/14 21:21:18
John
It was buggy and I had expected a fully mature DAW. What I demoed was a half baked Apple reject. I don't often say negative things about other DAWs. Here I was so disappointed I have no problem saying so. I too had heard so many good things about it. One was that many composers use it. Its notation is just barely better than Sonar's. Logic and Cubase run rings around it. On a Windows machine Sonar is a prince in comparison. Heck Reaper is a far better choice. It reminded me of Pro Tools free from the 90s.
 
It also has a very convoluted way of doing things. need I say more? You did ask.
 
2016/11/15 00:14:57
Anderton
tzzsmk
(which btw is one of reasons Sonar base installer is about 450MB while Reaper is about 11MB



For the record, the actual SONAR executable is 25 MB. The entire Platinum folder is 201 MB, but over half of that is the help files. Aside from the 25 MB SONAR.exe file, the remaining files are things like the ReWire library, DSD converter, iZotope's stretching algorithm, etc.
2016/11/15 16:34:05
...wicked
John
 
It also has a very convoluted way of doing things. need I say more? You did ask.



It DOES have a unique workflow for sure. It always had a few features I really covet. Like key-on record starting and a centered Now Time. I also liked it's windowed workflow, but that was a LONG time ago and I know it's changed quite a bit since then.
2016/11/15 19:03:07
Rain
John
It was buggy and I had expected a fully mature DAW. What I demoed was a half baked Apple reject. I don't often say negative things about other DAWs. Here I was so disappointed I have no problem saying so. I too had heard so many good things about it. One was that many composers use it. Its notation is just barely better than Sonar's. Logic and Cubase run rings around it. On a Windows machine Sonar is a prince in comparison. Heck Reaper is a far better choice. It reminded me of Pro Tools free from the 90s.
 
It also has a very convoluted way of doing things. need I say more? You did ask.
 




I too had long been curious about DP, that one elusive DAW - even after I'd switched to Mac, w/o a demo, DP remained shrouded in mystery. But it did look gorgeous and powerful.
 
I finally got to try it at the same time as everyone else, when the cross-platform version was released and MOTU finally gave us a demo. 
 
Of course, one shouldn't expect to instantly become familiar with such a powerful piece of software, but I could make up my mind pretty quickly that DP wasn't for me. That's not saying anything against it - I have a few friends who swear by it, so it must be good. 
 
But I also think that that first demo wasn't the most convincing - it felt a bit clunky, even on Mac. I'm sure prior versions, or the ones that were released afterward felt more solid.
2016/11/15 23:01:51
John
Rain
John
It was buggy and I had expected a fully mature DAW. What I demoed was a half baked Apple reject. I don't often say negative things about other DAWs. Here I was so disappointed I have no problem saying so. I too had heard so many good things about it. One was that many composers use it. Its notation is just barely better than Sonar's. Logic and Cubase run rings around it. On a Windows machine Sonar is a prince in comparison. Heck Reaper is a far better choice. It reminded me of Pro Tools free from the 90s.
 
It also has a very convoluted way of doing things. need I say more? You did ask.
 




I too had long been curious about DP, that one elusive DAW - even after I'd switched to Mac, w/o a demo, DP remained shrouded in mystery. But it did look gorgeous and powerful.
 
I finally got to try it at the same time as everyone else, when the cross-platform version was released and MOTU finally gave us a demo. 
 
Of course, one shouldn't expect to instantly become familiar with such a powerful piece of software, but I could make up my mind pretty quickly that DP wasn't for me. That's not saying anything against it - I have a few friends who swear by it, so it must be good. 
 
But I also think that that first demo wasn't the most convincing - it felt a bit clunky, even on Mac. I'm sure prior versions, or the ones that were released afterward felt more solid.


I'm thinking the same thing Rain. At least I'm hoping things work out for it. 
2016/12/15 03:42:32
UserDel
Let people have the beta version! no strength to wait! I have a mac and want to feel the platinum bought in Steam!
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