• SONAR
  • Pro Channel and/or Inser FX feel messy (p.4)
2015/09/20 15:58:44
Kylotan
Anderton
But the main feature CV has that TV doesn't have is the assignable FX faders. That's huge for real-time mix performances.

I'd never seen that before. I notice that you mentioned it in your SOS review of Sonar 3, 12 years ago. :)
 
Again, purely from a personal point of view, I'll never use this. I might try and add some real-time automation at the mixing stage, and when I do, it'll be for about 10 minutes per song, once per album, to tweak vocal delays or the like. So that's about half an hour per year. I currently do this with the individual plugin open in track view anyway - where it's easier since I can see the waveform and plan the automation, and I will usually end up editing the automation curve manually in track view, so console view adds nothing for me. Even if I did consistently use this feature at mixdown time, it wouldn't justify me hiding away key parts of the FX and instrument chain in Console View during the rest of the production process.
 
Re: making fine adjustments - the shift key works for me. Maybe not as instantly intuitive but it doesn't require a whole new GUI view to use.
 

I find both CV and TV to be very useful, which is why I like the D command so much.



I did try Console View in the multidock for a while, after it was suggested in one of our previous discussions on this issue. But it doesn't really help - it's just duplicating what I already have on-screen in a format that doesn't even fit adequately into the space provided. Maybe if I ever get a 4K monitor it would work well, but until then, if I have to scroll vertically to get the job done, I may as well stay in Track View and do it there. :)
2015/09/20 17:19:58
tlw
I find one of the great strengths of the PC is that once it's opened all the settings of every module in it are visible at the same time, give or take a bit of scrolling. Not needing to open plugins to see their interface and then deal with multiple windows makes tweaking things much easier, especially on a single screen.
2017/03/22 13:42:51
peter47
to add to this thread i have a question, what is the signal flow? input>fx bin>pro channel>output or input>pro channel>fx bin>output...and i am guessing all is post fader?
regards peter
2017/03/22 14:06:54
Bristol_Jonesey
It's switchable
 
Can't remember exactly where/how and I'm not at my DAW
2017/03/22 15:19:22
sven450
To answer OP, I do a hybrid, in which I use several elements of the PC, then create a FX chain (originally created in the fx bin), then drag it over to the PC and place where it makes most sense.  I agree it is a bit weird, but it works as I want it too giving me plugins of my choosing (often Waves) and the nice PC modules I enjoy.
2017/03/22 15:25:35
Anderton
I can do most of what I need to do in the PC, then I use the FX bin for anything else that's needed. Re the PC, I'd say the Concrete Limiter, QuadCurve, Breverb, and Tube take care of 90% of my processing needs. I try to use the minimal amount of plug-ins possible. The main FX bin application is amp sims; sometimes the PC is pre, sometimes post depending on the desired effect.
2017/03/22 15:37:56
peter47
not sure if you guys understood my question...the audio signal, does it go through pc or fx bin first that is what order is the signal passing through an example would be a compressor on the fx bin and the quadcurve on the PC what which gets hit first?
2017/03/22 15:39:42
Studioguy1
Well, accessing ProChannel from the inspector in track view helps me.  Actually, I find myself moving back and forth between track view and console view, I suppose because of my past using hardware mixers.  However, with a re-awakened interest in ProChannel (Courtesy of some of Mr. Anderton's tips) I have been putting together my own templates based on my daily usage.  I find that immensely helpful.  I have no problem in using shift-D to move between Tracks and Console and accessing ProChannel is very easy in my book.  The challenge, of course, is setting up ProChannel for optimum usage in various styles of music and instruments.  Once again, I really enjoy reading how you guys use this program.  Though, I have my own comfort level, I am always open to new angles or techniques.  I think it's kind of like songwriting.  It never hurts to hear someone else's approach.  When one tends to bury himself in one methodology (as I have done in the past), that is where creativity can sometimes get lost.  Thank you to you all.
2017/03/22 15:40:01
Bristol_Jonesey
IT'S SWITCHABLE
2017/03/22 17:20:03
tlw
This signal flow diagram explains what the routing options are -

https://www.cakewalk.com/...mp;help=Mixing.07.html
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