• SONAR
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2017/03/21 14:32:44
ChewingAluminumFoil
Sheesh, now SONAR lost all my V-Vocal fiddlings.  This project is way more difficult than usual. I am not a regular SONAR user, I just do these hit-and-run projects.
 
CAF
2017/03/21 14:41:47
Cactus Music
Been awhile but I think you run V Vocal, fix the track and then bounce it. 
Especially back in X1 days V  vocal was a buggy app and many a post could be found complaining. 
2017/03/21 14:44:40
ChewingAluminumFoil
Yeah, I gather SONAR doesn't even ship with V-Vocal anymore.  Like I said, I'm a very occasional user so I'm not really motivated to try to keep up with the latest, but that does leave me wrestling with last century's bugs.
 
CAF
2017/03/21 16:02:08
glennstanton
after updates, or before starting a project, i reboot my system. this resets the memory pools and services. many many applications, services, etc can leave holes in memory resulting in fragmented memory locations, pointers to bad memory space, etc which can disrupt the operations. very often you see this in Java where the garbage collection is trying to catch up and/or developers went around the JVM to directly access objects leaving holes etc. if you have SSD drives, the boot process could be under a minute and you will find much more happiness...
2017/03/21 16:10:39
ChewingAluminumFoil
Thanks for your help, guys.  My last rough mix may have been the final. SONAR has totally lost its mind about the V-Vocal stuff.  I hear the correction but the editor shows no changes.  And in some cases it's showing 3 clips in the track view and it won't so "Remove V-Vocal."
 
I'm either done or I'll wrestle with a bit more tonight, we'll see.
 
CAF
2017/03/21 19:16:59
ChewingAluminumFoil
One last question for you folks.  Do any of you recall how V-Vocal edits were stored?  Like I said, SONAR seems to find the rendered V-Vocal clips but not the source edits.  I hear the pitch correction happening until I open the clip, and then I'm presented with a clip with no edits and no audible correction.
 
If these are in separate files with vaguely human-readable names I'd like to go see if I can help SONAR get sane again.  Or is stuff also stored in the project file? 
 
It's pretty messed up. What do I have to lose?
 
CAF
2017/03/21 19:42:52
robert_e_bone
I really hadn't done more with V-Vocal than to just test it out on some vocal tracks.
 
It was always pretty buggy - though my recollections are that folks generally had found that it was best to do little bits of edits at a time with V-Vocal, than to go ahead and bounce them to 'print' them, as having too many active V-Vocal edits at a time, in a given project, was a good way to start causing problems and crashes.
 
Melodyne is the replacement that now ships with Platinum, and it is WAY more stable, in my opinion, as is Platinum versus X1, X2, or even X3.
 
But - yeah - if you are having V-Vocal nightmares, try doing smaller edit chunks at a time, and when you are happy with them, bounce them.  That seemed to help me, as well as others, in my recollection.
 
Bob Bone
 
2017/03/21 21:08:48
pwalpwal
ChewingAluminumFoil
One last question for you folks.  Do any of you recall how V-Vocal edits were stored?  Like I said, SONAR seems to find the rendered V-Vocal clips but not the source edits.  I hear the pitch correction happening until I open the clip, and then I'm presented with a clip with no edits and no audible correction.
 
If these are in separate files with vaguely human-readable names I'd like to go see if I can help SONAR get sane again.  Or is stuff also stored in the project file? 
 
It's pretty messed up. What do I have to lose?
 
CAF


i had a quick google and couldn't find an answer, and don't have it installed but if you make a minimal test project, do the vvocal thing, save & exit, then examine the output, cwp, audio folder etc, any extra files in there? vv may also be saving its data somewhere other than the cw project folders
good luck!
2017/03/21 22:23:45
abacab
pwalpwal
ChewingAluminumFoil
One last question for you folks.  Do any of you recall how V-Vocal edits were stored?  Like I said, SONAR seems to find the rendered V-Vocal clips but not the source edits.  I hear the pitch correction happening until I open the clip, and then I'm presented with a clip with no edits and no audible correction.
 
If these are in separate files with vaguely human-readable names I'd like to go see if I can help SONAR get sane again.  Or is stuff also stored in the project file? 
 
It's pretty messed up. What do I have to lose?
 
CAF


i had a quick google and couldn't find an answer, and don't have it installed but if you make a minimal test project, do the vvocal thing, save & exit, then examine the output, cwp, audio folder etc, any extra files in there? vv may also be saving its data somewhere other than the cw project folders
good luck!




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2017/03/22 13:36:22
pwalpwal
i think sysinternals includes a file/hd monitor also
 
but maybe someone from cakewalk could save all the investigation work and just tell us!!
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