• SONAR
  • My experience with exporting stems from Sonar (grr) (p.2)
2017/03/18 17:03:14
kennywtelejazz
 
Craig with all due respect ,
 
It is a proven fact that you have a solid foundation when it come to music production  , I will give you that ...  
Maybe the OP will find benefit in what you have put forth as a solution . If that's the case I'm happy for you both.
 
 
The thing is , not everybody around here want's to " always do things your way" ..
 
 
Kenny
2017/03/18 17:47:48
chuckebaby
kennywtelejazz
 
Craig with all due respect ,
 
It is a proven fact that you have a solid foundation when it come to music production  , I will give you that ...  
Maybe the OP will find benefit in what you have put forth as a solution . If that's the case I'm happy for you both.
 
 
The thing is , not everybody around here want's to " always do things your way" ..
 
 
Kenny


Come on now. It sounded to me like he was simply giving advise.... You know just like you did (minus the jab).
Im just as interested in what you have to say as what Craig has to say. Im not sure what this "Always" is ?
Just be happy and make good music .
Look I used a smiley like you to make what I said not sound as harsh
 
 
2017/03/18 18:20:52
Tom F
never ever had such an issue in the last 10 years using sonar...
 
btw. i´d say that sonar has one of the best capabilities in that context and obviously one should just render all the single tracks out simultaniously in order to prevent any chaos.
 
 
2017/03/18 18:43:59
Anderton
kennywtelejazz
 
Craig with all due respect ,
 
It is a proven fact that you have a solid foundation when it come to music production  , I will give you that ...  
Maybe the OP will find benefit in what you have put forth as a solution . If that's the case I'm happy for you both.
 
The thing is , not everybody around here want's to " always do things your way" ..
Kenny

 
No offense taken, of course. But if someone isn't aware of something that might be getting in their way, I feel the need to recommend a potential solution. For example in the initial post, I couldn't help but wonder why he would choose to export each track individually...which is why the first thing I did was ask why he chose to do that. Because if he had a reason for doing so, then "my way" wouldn't be applicable. But since there was no indication that Sharke was familiar with the "export everything all at once" option, I thought it was important to mention.
 
I never say "my way" is the only way, but I've logged a heckuva lot of hours on SONAR, and if "my way" is applicable and will make life easier for people, so much the better. I've also found that even seasoned SONAR users like Sharke, and certainly including myself, don't know everything and some of the missing pieces of knowledge can be quite basic. I hope everyone realizes that if I recommend something basic to some people, it doesn't mean I question their abilities or expertise. It's easy to overlook options in a program with as many nooks and crannies as SONAR.
2017/03/18 19:21:24
brundlefly
I have to agree in general that if you're doing something repeatedly and you get a different result in one or two cases, it's more likely that you did something different in those cases than that the software randomly behaved differently with the same selections. I would also second the recommendation to do one export with source = tracks or buses to get separate files in order to reduce the number of opportunities for something to go wrong.
2017/03/18 21:52:43
kennywtelejazz
Anderton
kennywtelejazz
 
Craig with all due respect ,
 
It is a proven fact that you have a solid foundation when it come to music production  , I will give you that ...  
Maybe the OP will find benefit in what you have put forth as a solution . If that's the case I'm happy for you both.
 
The thing is , not everybody around here want's to " always do things your way" ..
Kenny

 
No offense taken, of course. But if someone isn't aware of something that might be getting in their way, I feel the need to recommend a potential solution. For example in the initial post, I couldn't help but wonder why he would choose to export each track individually...which is why the first thing I did was ask why he chose to do that. Because if he had a reason for doing so, then "my way" wouldn't be applicable. But since there was no indication that Sharke was familiar with the "export everything all at once" option, I thought it was important to mention.
 
I never say "my way" is the only way, but I've logged a heckuva lot of hours on SONAR, and if "my way" is applicable and will make life easier for people, so much the better. I've also found that even seasoned SONAR users like Sharke, and certainly including myself, don't know everything and some of the missing pieces of knowledge can be quite basic. I hope everyone realizes that if I recommend something basic to some people, it doesn't mean I question their abilities or expertise. It's easy to overlook options in a program with as many nooks and crannies as SONAR.




Craig ,
 
I'm very glad you chimed in . accept my apology's in advance I'm not a professional writer and I know I'm a hard read  ...
I wasn't looking to offend you , I'm glad you didn't take it as that ...
 
There is nobody out there that I know of that has worked as hard as you have and given as much back to the SONAR community as you have ...I have learned a lot from you
 
Having said that , I'm still here to dance my own dance and walk my own path ...however far off the beaten trail it may be ...
 
I took great care in my original post to sharke by stating ... "I do a lot of single track exports myself going from SPlat into Mixbus ...I have my reasons and I will leave it at that for now ...."
 
Since I have no Idea of what sharke's musical end game was , I didn't want to over-flood him with a bunch of info  he wasn't looking for ....
 
Anyway , why would I want to export a single or multiple tracks out of SONAR into Mixbus ?
Why not keep it in SONAR the whole time ?
The answer to that one is pretty simple ...I want that extra 20 %  I can't seem to get out of SONAR, or every other DAW I own and have used....
 
Folks this is not from a lack of trying
 
In short I do 80 % of all my music in SPlat . all the composing , playing , song construction , and  arranging .
Then I bring my tracks over to Mixbus usually one or two tracks at a time ...
in most cases I place a SONAR modified mix in Mixbus ....
What that means is the modified SONAR mix may have no drums or bass ...that gives me the freedom to still have a general song progress reference mix while I am still in Mixbus ...then I will work on my bass and drum sounds ...
I love how Mixbus colors my sounds , so I may export the Mixbus modified tracks back into SONAR to be able to continue working there in that environment ...
I rinse and repeat with all my guitars and synth parts ...eventually what happens is I mute the SONAR reference tracks in Mixbus
Same happens in SONAR , I mute the tracks were originally done in SONAR and I keep my  modified Mixbus tracks as keepers in SONAR
Now I have 2 versions of my song project . a SONAR project and a Mixbus project ...from that point on the best mix wins
 
there now you know why I didn't want to mention all this Jazz to sharke ...
 
all the best
Kenny
 
2017/03/18 22:28:59
jackson white
brundlefly
I have to agree in general that if you're doing something repeatedly and you get a different result in one or two cases, it's more likely that you did something different in those cases than that the software randomly behaved differently with the same selections. 



With all due respect (and I truly mean that as your posts reflect way more experience and expertise than I have) if that was true, we would never see audio dropouts, speed comp crashes, take lane anomalies, PRV synch issues, etc. etc. In a deep complex program with so many "nooks and crannies" and multiple options for many many tasks, I think it might be possible for some state machine to become compromised if it happens to be exercised in some fashion that hadn't been thoroughly scripted in the test harness. 
 
The OP appears to have been working in a "less efficient" manner than might have been recommended by other users and I could imagine that something may not have lined up as expected. I've come across a few similar issues which are difficult to repeat because of the many cumulative steps required to recreate the particular house of cards that eventually collapsed.
 
just mho. 
2017/03/19 02:16:10
kennywtelejazz
chuckebaby
kennywtelejazz
 
Craig with all due respect ,
 
It is a proven fact that you have a solid foundation when it come to music production  , I will give you that ...  
Maybe the OP will find benefit in what you have put forth as a solution . If that's the case I'm happy for you both.
 
 
The thing is , not everybody around here want's to " always do things your way" ..
 
 
Kenny


Come on now. It sounded to me like he was simply giving advise.... You know just like you did (minus the jab).
Im just as interested in what you have to say as what Craig has to say. Im not sure what this "Always" is ?
Just be happy and make good music .
Look I used a smiley like you to make what I said not sound as harsh
 
 


 

 
Hey Chuck ,
 
That was a real nice post ...I Wub you too....
 
I wanted to step in and offer the OP a quick down and dirty solution to his problem .
I wasn't coming totally from the SONAR end of things at all ...
The answer Craig gave was fine for that ....the thing is I have been a user of the other program for almost 4 years .
 I was offering my advice as per getting sharkes tracks into his secondary DAW so he can get busy ....
 
I have no Idea if Craig uses Mixbus , or what he may think of the program. For all I know ...
who knows ???????????    you get my drift ?
One interesting thing I do know is that Gibson Guitars & Harrison Consoles are both based in Nashville Tennessee .... hint hint
 
anyway the OP may have hit a temporary brick wall as evidenced from this posting
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Why-is-Mixbus-32C-importing-my-mono-stems-as-stereo-tracks-m3576819.aspx
 
Should I go over there and offer my help w a possible solution ?
Nahh I won't ...I already tried here and wound up in the ring on the ropes ..
I'm not gonna go over there and tell him he may be accidentally exporting his stuff out of SONAR as split Stereo Mono files and that Mixbus may be just only giving him the one side ..
ooopppss did I spill the beans .... maybe I'm totally wrong in this topic .....hhhmmm probably not , but it is possible I could be ..
 
I have no problem admitting there are many areas of guitar playing , music production , SONAR , Life and plenty of things I don't know ...
 
How I ever got this far I'll never Know
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson/song-for-my-father
have a good one ,
 
Kenny
 
 
2017/03/19 06:58:08
Anderton
kennywtelejazz
How I ever got this far I'll never Know

 
My theory is "decent human being."
 
2017/03/19 11:15:04
chuckebaby
ahhhh This place is like a family. Sometimes you get mad at someone just like you do a brother.
Yesterday I unblocked someone on this forum. When I had them blocked, I would unblock one of their posts to read it and I kept seeing helpful information that I could use...LOL.
So when it comes down to it.. the regulars here...we are like a big family. You can only be mad at family for so long.
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