Hi Guys, I've posted something similar before - but success still eludes me! I've tried a work-around but not very effectively.
 
I have a Yamaha Motif XS rack module which works fine when using the midi interface - but I need to keep tweeking the controls and use the LCD screen on the motif to control it - which is both tiring and time consuming to my work flow.
 
Using the USB connection between the Motif and the PC, the Motif Editor loads as a VST3 and the editor displays in my Sonar X3. HOWEVER, no matter what I try, I cannot get my keyboard midi data through Sonar into the Motif. So I have no sound.
 
Have tried and failed several times to get Yamaha support to help - but no joy. I get the distinct feelng they don't give a damn. The Motifactor forum support site has produced not a single reply. In fact, from the "activity" it seems to be almost defunct!
 
I'm at a loss as what the problem is or how to resolve it. I've had this unit for about a year now and it's driving me so mad I'm thinking of selling it.
 
Just hoping another Sonar user has a Motif and could help with the sorting it out.??
 
Living in hope - again!

I don't have a Motif but I thought the VST3 editor was only officially supported with Cubase? I could be wrong though.

Couldn't you load an instance of the editor to edit and a regular midi track to play notes?

While I don't have the Motif product you describe, I do have a Motif 6 classic. It's drivers create 3 midi ports, 6-1, 6-2,and 6-3. The midi notes come across on port 6-1 and the 6-3 is for control surface controllers. 6-2 is used by Motif plug-in boards. Until I found the 6-3 port, the control surface would never work.

Could it be something like this? Just fishing!

Sanderxpander
I don't have a Motif but I thought the VST3 editor was only officially supported with Cubase? I could be wrong though.

It's true. However, my understanding is that you do have the option of running the editor within Yamaha's Studio Manager, which can run standalone without Cubase. 

Hi all and thanks for the replies.
 
Well biflipper and sanderxpander apart from the fact that I can't get to work (!) it certainly loads in Sonar as a VST 3 insert. 
 
I've not tried to open an instance of the editor outside Sonar. The problem there would seem to be that in the Motif setting utilities you have to select either Midi or USB - not both, so I guess you can't use the editor outside Sonar as USB and midi inside Sonar.
But I'll give it a try and see what happens.
 
Looking at the editor pages the software looks like a really powerful tool and able to control much more that the basic midi cc. It's very frustrating that Yamaha doesn't seem to be very pro-active - especially as it's the top of the range module, with a price to match!!

Hi Tremor.
 
I have a motif XS rack but haven't used it for a while now. With regard to activating both USB and midi input, from memory I don't think you need to. I ran the motif editor inside Yamaha's studio manager as bitflipper suggested at the same time as sending it midi from Sonar without any issues.  I also had instrument definitions set up in sonar so that I could apply patches chosen in the editor permanently to a track once the tweaking was done. I didn't use the motif's usb midi however. I just ran a midi out from my interface. Perhaps that made a difference, though I don't see why. 

Motif wizard John Melas sells some amazing software for Motifs, including the Motif Rack XS.  Good stuff. 
 
See his info at:  http://www.jmelas.gr/motif/products.php

Well I have managed to run the editor in standalone mode and voice it with midi. 
 
BUT the problem remains that it won't work in Sonar - which means having to save the editor settings separately from thre DAW. Won't be doing that - probably sell it now it's driving me nuts! The Roland Integra 7 is Soooo trouble-free!!

I am not entirely sure what you mean. The editor is used to adjust the Motif's settings,  then you store the sound in the motif. Otherwise you will lose any changes upon exiting or changing the patch. This can certainly be done in studio manager whilst the Motif is connected to and playing from Sonar. You then assign a bank and program change to the track in Sonar to recall the patch whenever the project is loaded.
 
You can use Studio Manager from the utility menu in Sonar, but IIRC the is no real advantage.
 
To be honest, VST sample players like Kontakt and synths like Sylenth are so good (and convenient) I find I rarely use my hardware synths anymore.

Did you make the correct setting in the MOTIF for usb operation?  How about the port settings?
I have an MOX and tried the usb thing and recall running into some issues but don't remember exactly what.  I opted to just go the midi route instead. 
I have had success with the iPad app for the MOX however.
 
I just remember the setup to use the MOX through USB involved some rather weird settings changes, and perhaps even some other app to connect to the editor.  Maybe I will try looking into that again...might take a little time.
 
Found these: It's for Cubase but the set up screen for routing is the same for Sonar IIRC...
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/mox6_mox8_cubase_and_the_editor_vst
https://www.yamahasynth.c...ut-connections-problem
And this which showed the setup for Sonar X3...
http://faq.yamaha.com/us/...ers/sy-moxf/10717/8077
 
The port settings had to be set up exactly like this:

and this: